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  1. #21
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by mattyboy77 View Post
    So with that in mind I was in a six player dungeon and another player started complaining I was only doing 3 attack moves. These attacks stacked so I do one, then the second which does more damage than if I'd just done it on its own before the first, and then the last attack does massive damage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    There is a WORLD of difference between playing like that, and just spamming your full thrust combo. You have other abilities, learn how to use them.
    Urthdigger explained the basics. This thread still has the full level 50 rotation you should use as a base for leveling from 50 to 60: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...otation-Reborn

    When you get to level 60, it's time to learn the current full rotation, which you can find from this thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...A-DPS-Paradigm

    As a DD, there is never a situation in which you only spam 1 2 3.
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    Last edited by Taika; 11-10-2016 at 11:58 PM.

  2. #22
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Yeah, when people say you need to learn the rotation, what Urth described is the dragoon version of what they mean. For dragoon it means keeping up the heavy thrust buff, using the chaos combo for the extra DoT and debuff, and working in the full thrust combo to get the best damage you can(or heavy + aoe for multi-target encounters). A lot of this changes as you go - you didnt even get your full chaos combo until level 50 afterall - so you need to keep evaluating new skills and traits as you get them to see how best to put them to use. Or read the DPS forum, and see the work other people have already put in to all that. A lot of dedicated people have spent a lot of time arguing, testing, and calculating all this stuff already.
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    Last edited by Frizze; 11-11-2016 at 04:33 PM.

  3. #23
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    Atoli's Avatar
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    Nhai Tayuun
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonkleberry View Post
    I am not worried about harassment. It just becomes a reality of the end game that I would be forced to cookie cutter my build to my role and use these programs myself if I want to be included in anything serious. Cookie cutter builds are just boring and steal fun from the game
    So "fun" is sucking at doing your job at the expense of your party members who have to compensate for you? FFXIV is a fun game, but there really is no variation in effective "builds" or anything.
    There is the "I can heal through heavy raid-wide DMG and brutal tankbusters" build and there is the "My healing can't save anyone" build. That's it.

    If you want to be included in something serious, make a serious effort, easy as that. People (potentially) kick you because you don't do your job well, parser or not.
    Having one just makes it easier to notice, but it's not like failing isn't obvious otherwise. If you are worried about people being mean to you based on parser results - UnaLihzeh already said it: that's strictly forbidden and you can absolutely report someone for it.

    I find it kind of mind-boggling though how you can indirectly say "I want to suck at this game but still get carried through hard content without getting called out on it" without feeling any shame. I'll just assume you are not aware yet that there IS only one effective way per class to play and that's why you said all of that..since you do not know yet that anything but cookiecutter just means sucking really hard.
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  4. #24
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    Bonkleberry's Avatar
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    Justin Satanas
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    Malboro
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Awe, how cute. Did you wait this long to reply because you were afraid I would see it and respond?

    First off, you know nothing about me, so attacking my game skills and knowledge is just a childish way of compensating for your own issues.

    Second, you clearly lack reading comprehension skills. This thread is not abot me wanting to be a bad player and getting away with it, it is about what the rules of the game clearly state and people breaking the rules to be "better" players and players that do not want to do certain things to be good at this game. To put things more simply for your small perspective, if this game has a rule that everyone should follow for competitive reasons, then the rule should be enforced. People chose to play a game because of rules it may offer. Trying to get around the rule does not make a good or improved player, it makes you a cheater and cheaters ruin the game for other players.
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    You cannot take anything for granted, change eventually swallows everything you may try to immortalize.

  5. #25
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    Frowny's Avatar
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    Rai Dolabnha
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    Faerie
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    Lancer Lv 90
    I know of no programs except a parser and the overlay it has. That's it and all it gives is data. It doesn't give an inherent advantage except for Savage groups analyzing their runs for improvement.
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