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    But culdn't that considered to be the opposite of simplifying the battle system? At least as far as MNK goes anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    What part of the trailer got us hyped to fight Garleans?
    Monk on Monk anime fighting and the resistance fighters down below readying cannons and stuff among armored chocobos and Ala Mhigan banners fluttering in the breeze. Looked like they were getting ready for heavy fighting.

    And no, the trailers don't always have to do the same thing, but the composition seems fairly similar to me. Too similar to be coincidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SessionZero View Post
    Monk on Monk anime fighting and the resistance fighters down below readying cannons and stuff among armored chocobos and Ala Mhigan banners fluttering in the breeze. Looked like they were getting ready for heavy fighting.

    And no, the trailers don't always have to do the same thing, but the composition seems fairly similar to me. Too similar to be coincidence.
    Seemed like a completely different composition from my standpoint. This one spent way less time setting a mood (where we start with a WoL wandering slowly in the dark cold snow in the HW trailer) and then we move onto what appears to be a friendly duel (where in the HW trailer he was dodging an endless barrage of Dragon attacks).

    I didn't take away garlean hype at all from the trailer. Monk on Monk|Dancer|Super Saiyan battle doesn't convey Garlean war to me. The people below seemed more interested in our duel then whatever they were doing. Ala Mhigan banners in the breeze doesn't convey fighting garlean hype to me either.

    That said, I know we will be fighting Garleans, but I got this from the talk after the trailer - not the trailer itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
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    Obviously people will take away different perspectives on it. We should all bear in mind, also, that this isn't the full trailer. We're all speculating on a teaser of a trailer of an expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SessionZero View Post
    Obviously people will take away different perspectives on it. We should all bear in mind, also, that this isn't the full trailer. We're all speculating on a teaser of a trailer of an expansion.
    Indeed, can't wait for the rest
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    So the logic is that I can't pass judgment on a topic's existence after someone admits that the existence of the thread is in fear of it being drowned out by others in the exact same topic (if people read the OP's first post, he's talking about speculation of the classes involved in the video, poor title choice I suppose), due to your added reasoning that people are starting to derail the thread of speculation. So a thread getting derailed by a couple of clowns justifies the making of a new thread about the same issue? Its not easier to ask the people to keep to the topic or just ignore them all together?
    Now you're just using tautology to repeat the same thing to make it seem like you have a point for the sake of having a point, when you don't. I admit the title in question could have been named better, but considering I'm using parts of said trailer to make a theory of how they could evolve the monk for 4.0, it's not exactly off point. Now you're asking why people can't just stay on topic in a post when in fact, you're going off topic in this post by arguing that this post follows a similar post when it actually states a theory of the monk....that you haven't read. I rest my case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    But culdn't that considered to be the opposite of simplifying the battle system? At least as far as MNK goes anyway.
    I can't remember if they said during the keynote if they wanted to simplify it or not. I do remember though that they wanted to repurpose and get rid of useless skills. People find featherfoot to be really useless, as a lv60 monk myself, I find the fists of earth and wind to be even more useless because they don't have a use past 50 whatsoever. It could be complicated, but what I have in mind is that it changes the skills of abilites we have already learned to suit the forms. That in itself gives the two other forms a use, while still keeping the class as it was: a martial arts based class but with different forms of martial arts.
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    Guys, remember the 5 billion pink hraesvelgrs that we fought just like on the heavensward trailer?



    I sure don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    I didn't know I was a special snowflake by telling someone how silly it is to make a new thread about the same subject because they were afraid their opinion would be drowned out in a sea of opinions. Thanks for letting me know though.

    Its this very behavior that leads to no thread ever really being taken seriously where there are 2-3-4 different threads regarding the exact same thing, usually made because people feel their opinion is too significant to be drowned out by 40 pages of opinions.
    I didn't say you were a special snowflake; I said you're a virtue signaler for calling other people snowflakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    (if people read the OP's first post, he's talking about speculation of the classes involved in the video, poor title choice I suppose)
    no, he's not. this thread is about MNK job changes.

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    i don't see how they can make the stances differ and still be meaningful. i had thought that being in Fist of Wind would increase your attack speed or increase GL duration but people are going to eventually figure out that it's either much better than Fist of Fire or still worse and we'll end up with just one optimal stance and ignore the other.

    i don't see them changing the stances to like a 30 sec buffs on a 90 sec cooldown either, that would be weird for stances.
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