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    Player Kaurie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamsoap View Post
    Thank you for being a voice of reason. This is really a waste of time. People are reading way too deep into really shallow information. You're all a bunch of nerds, go wash the dishes or something.
    Unnecessarily offensive. People are reading deep into a trailer for an expansion of a game they love. As I said earlier in this thread, there is a series of videos from IGN that do exactly that with a wide variety of trailers. It's not uncommon.

    Surprised your post, which contributes nothing to the conversation and just insults a bunch of people, got 2 upvotes.

    Do you have anything to offer that shows that the OP would be wrong in their theory, based on the trailer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Unnecessarily offensive. People are reading deep into a trailer for an expansion of a game they love. As I said earlier in this thread, there is a series of videos from IGN that do exactly that with a wide variety of trailers. It's not uncommon.

    Surprised your post, which contributes nothing to the conversation and just insults a bunch of people, got 2 upvotes.

    Do you have anything to offer that shows that the OP would be wrong in their theory, based on the trailer?
    No, because I don't care. Time is a thing that happens, and more information will be revealed as it passes. And are you serious? Offensive? I couldn't have tried harder to make it sound sarcastic. You people are way too fragile these days.
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    Last edited by Dreamsoap; 10-19-2016 at 08:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamsoap View Post
    No, because I don't care. Time is a thing that happens, and more information will be revealed as it passes. And are you serious? Offensive? I couldn't have tried harder to make it sound sarcastic. You people are way too fragile these days.
    Making something sound sarcastic is often an easy way to offend someone. Calling people a bunch of nerds and telling them to go wash dishes both directly insults them and indirectly insults them. I am not sure how you can't see that you were being offensive.

    If you don't care, why have you posted twice in this thread. Just stay away if you have nothing constructive to contribute.
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    But culdn't that considered to be the opposite of simplifying the battle system? At least as far as MNK goes anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    But culdn't that considered to be the opposite of simplifying the battle system? At least as far as MNK goes anyway.
    I can't remember if they said during the keynote if they wanted to simplify it or not. I do remember though that they wanted to repurpose and get rid of useless skills. People find featherfoot to be really useless, as a lv60 monk myself, I find the fists of earth and wind to be even more useless because they don't have a use past 50 whatsoever. It could be complicated, but what I have in mind is that it changes the skills of abilites we have already learned to suit the forms. That in itself gives the two other forms a use, while still keeping the class as it was: a martial arts based class but with different forms of martial arts.
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    Guys, remember the 5 billion pink hraesvelgrs that we fought just like on the heavensward trailer?



    I sure don't.
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    This thread makes me sad.

    "So I've got a theory..."
    "Pah, don't even bother."
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    More proof of ignorant folks assuming things when the read just takes a few seconds.

    In regards to the OP, I think the title of this thread is misleading. In regards to your idea on the revamp of "Fists of" skills, it definitely could work, kind of like stance dancing for War or Astrologian does now (and what I hope they do for War is consolidate IB/FC and SC/Decimate). Giving more flavor to classes through stance dancing could add versatility, and maybe allow for different battle mechanics due to this diversity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloody View Post
    More proof of ignorant folks assuming things when the read just takes a few seconds.

    In regards to the OP, I think the title of this thread is misleading. In regards to your idea on the revamp of "Fists of" skills, it definitely could work, kind of like stance dancing for War or Astrologian does now (and what I hope they do for War is consolidate IB/FC and SC/Decimate). Giving more flavor to classes through stance dancing could add versatility, and maybe allow for different battle mechanics due to this diversity.
    I admit it wasn't a very good title in retrospect. I meant to have the title refer to how I came to this theory through the trailer, but it backfired horribly.

    As for people assuming things without even giving the OP a read...that's the usual voice of reason for this forum, rather than going in with an open mind. It's either one way or the other sadly.
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    Florence Leduc
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    even if the idea is nice, it will not pass, they will not create a whole new set of animation because you switch of fist. mostly because they will need to do it for every jobs that have different stance (and strangely you have a few). plus like the idea to have different weapon used by the same jobs they will prefer create a new jobs that will use this weapon and animation that put it on another jobs. because is not different than, creating another speciality. what they have said will never happend.

    that said about the skill that will be revamped (if not take out) you have a few of them. and i think they will more work around the meditation skill and more flexible combo system, because soo far we are quite limited in the possibility.
    i still wait for a no positional combo for the monk (yeah, because i find it silly to play a monk that play like a rogue), the chi blast! and maybe some skill that will allows us to charge the meditation. outside this the monk is kinda nice as he is right now.

    about the trailer, my position is well know, the red lady is not a monk, what she is.... it's open to speculation, for me (as like it's my personal opinion), it's scream dancer... funfact, i did say a few years ago that i will find very interesting that the dancer use a similar combo system like the monk, but based on kicking, each skill representating a "dance's step" and instead to get a personal buff like the monk, do a buff around her, motivating people or debuffing enemy. but i digress, we are talking about a theory about the monk based on the trailer.

    i will simply say this, no point to show 2 monk sparing, especially if this two monk don't use the same combat style. the man (wol) is clearly a monk, the girl on the other hand... nope, this is not a monk.

    the stop of the support of the ps3 will not result in more cash invested into 1-2 class, yoshida was clear, if they give something special to one class, they will give something special to every class!

    ps: something i want to make quite clear, because some people seems to forget it time to time:
    when i talk of Monk i'm talk of Monk in Final Fantasy 14. you can come and say, in the 4-3-6-10 they do this.... no point, we are in Final Fantasy 14 and the monk have already an identity really clear.
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    Last edited by silentwindfr; 10-19-2016 at 02:49 PM.

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