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    Monk/Trailer theory

    I had already posted this in the there is no dancer (yet) thread, but I have a bad feeling it'll get drowned out, so I'll post this theory here as well.

    Some people say that in the trailer they used some of the monk forms like fists of fire and fists of wind. Now with that in mind remember what was mentioned at the fest about the battle system getting updated, and useless skills getting repurposed. Featherfoot isn't the only pointless skill in the monks endgame arsenal, two of our forms can't ever be used during an endgame battle by any means: the fists of wind and the fists of earth. So, what if the devs update the other two forms to change the monks fighting style? And not just change the fighting style, but change the abilities as well to suit the different form of martial arts?

    We'll use the trailer as a good example for that. If the forms did get repurposed then the monk could change their style to suit that form as said before. The fists of fire being a more offence, heavy attacker focused form.

    The fists of wind being perhaps, a more lightweight and flowing form like how the woman in the trailer was. Maybe something that promotes fast attacks and evasion.

    The fists of earth would be a tough one to pin down, obviously since it was a form used for defense at earlier levels, maybe it would promote a higher defense and could possibly focus on something like counterattacking, or using the damage they receive to buff themselves.

    Just some speculation there on my part. If there are any martial artists on this forum that would like to help elaborate on this, please do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcsol93 View Post
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    I'll be honest, I didn't read past the first sentence because that's a little...silly. You had a theory but you did not want your theory to be drowned out by other opinions so you created another thread. Question: If your theory was good and you did post it in said thread (which is pretty much talking about what you are now....making speculation on a teaser trailer which is for only hype), wouldn't people simply acknowledge? Sorry I'm just not seeing the point in making another thread about the same thing, other than (to be blunt) "I'm a special snowflake in a snow storm." I will applaud you for being honest about why you made the thread though. Not many people do that on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    I'll be honest, I didn't read past the first sentence because that's a little...silly. You had a theory but you did not want your theory to be drowned out by other opinions so you created another thread. Question: If your theory was good and you did post it in said thread (which is pretty much talking about what you are now....making speculation on a teaser trailer which is for only hype), wouldn't people simply acknowledge? Sorry I'm just not seeing the point in making another thread about the same thing, other than (to be blunt) "I'm a special snowflake in a snow storm."
    Says the person who didn't read past the first sentence to virtue signal about how somebody else is a special snowflake.

    The theory is good, in my opinion, but that doesn't mean people will pay attention to it. Hell even being its own thread doesn't mean people will pay attention to it.
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    A good counter theory to the "What about a Dancer?" speculation. Would certainly be welcome given that, as you say, Fist of Earth and Fist of Wind are by and large utterly useless.
    Seeing them reworked and given more use would certainly be welcome.
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    Honestly, I think people are reading into the trailer a bit too much. The Heavensward trailer did three things:

    1. It told us it would be set in Ishgard.
    2. It told us that Dragoons would be the focal job of the expansion.
    3. It got us hyped to fight some f*cking dragons.

    If you look at the Stormblood trailer (which is actually a trailer of the trailer), it does pretty much the exact same thing:

    1. It tells us it will be set in Ala Mhigo.
    2. It tells us Monk will be the focal job of the expansion.
    3. It gets us hyped to anime fight some f*cking Garleans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Says the person who didn't read past the first sentence to virtue signal about how somebody else is a special snowflake.

    The theory is good, in my opinion, but that doesn't mean people will pay attention to it. Hell even being its own thread doesn't mean people will pay attention to it.
    I didn't know I was a special snowflake by telling someone how silly it is to make a new thread about the same subject because they were afraid their opinion would be drowned out in a sea of opinions. Thanks for letting me know though.

    Its this very behavior that leads to no thread ever really being taken seriously where there are 2-3-4 different threads regarding the exact same thing, usually made because people feel their opinion is too significant to be drowned out by 40 pages of opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    I'll be honest, I didn't read past the first sentence because that's a little...silly. You had a theory but you did not want your theory to be drowned out by other opinions so you created another thread. Question: If your theory was good and you did post it in said thread (which is pretty much talking about what you are now....making speculation on a teaser trailer which is for only hype), wouldn't people simply acknowledge? Sorry I'm just not seeing the point in making another thread about the same thing, other than (to be blunt) "I'm a special snowflake in a snow storm." I will applaud you for being honest about why you made the thread though. Not many people do that on here.
    ...I'm silly when you just admitted you didn't even read past the first sentence? You should take your own advice about being a special snowflake.

    What I meant about getting drowned out was the constant bickering on whether or not the woman in the trailer was a monk or a dancer without hardly any elaboration on how she could be one or the other. And there's how many threads based on that single argument? 5? 10? I've lost count, seeing as how they're all alike. At least with this thread it gives a new approach to how the devs could change a class to make a monk SEEM like a dancer. But you wouldn't know because you didn't read the entire post, would you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    I'll be honest, I didn't read past the first sentence because that's a little...silly. You had a theory but you did not want your theory to be drowned out by other opinions so you created another thread. Question: If your theory was good and you did post it in said thread (which is pretty much talking about what you are now....making speculation on a teaser trailer which is for only hype), wouldn't people simply acknowledge? Sorry I'm just not seeing the point in making another thread about the same thing, other than (to be blunt) "I'm a special snowflake in a snow storm." I will applaud you for being honest about why you made the thread though. Not many people do that on here.
    I'd say their theory is different enough of a topic from the other thread to warrant a new thread. The other thread isn't a "Analysis of the Trailer" it's a "We don't have a dancer (Yet)" thread. This isn't talking about dancers.

    Quote Originally Posted by SessionZero View Post
    Honestly, I think people are reading into the trailer a bit too much. The Heavensward trailer did three things:

    1. It told us it would be set in Ishgard.
    2. It told us that Dragoons would be the focal job of the expansion.
    3. It got us hyped to fight some f*cking dragons.

    If you look at the Stormblood trailer (which is actually a trailer of the trailer), it does pretty much the exact same thing:

    1. It tells us it will be set in Ala Mhigo.
    2. It tells us Monk will be the focal job of the expansion.
    3. It gets us hyped to anime fight some f*cking Garleans.
    What part of the trailer got us hyped to fight Garleans?

    Also, I would not say that all trailers always have to show the exact same thing. .

    Having subtle hints and tidbits is not an uncommon thing to have in trailers. It's the precise reason why IGN has a "Rewind Theatre" where they examine trailers frame by frame for movies and video games alike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SessionZero View Post
    Honestly, I think people are reading into the trailer a bit too much. The Heavensward trailer did three things:

    1. It told us it would be set in Ishgard.
    2. It told us that Dragoons would be the focal job of the expansion.
    3. It got us hyped to fight some f*cking dragons.

    If you look at the Stormblood trailer (which is actually a trailer of the trailer), it does pretty much the exact same thing:

    1. It tells us it will be set in Ala Mhigo.
    2. It tells us Monk will be the focal job of the expansion.
    3. It gets us hyped to anime fight some f*cking Garleans.
    Agreed with that. I find this argument to have been drawn out too far, which is why I hope the devs step in and say a few words before it devolves further
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcsol93 View Post
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    So the logic is that I can't pass judgment on a topic's existence after someone admits that the existence of the thread is in fear of it being drowned out by others in the exact same topic (if people read the OP's first post, he's talking about speculation of the classes involved in the video, poor title choice I suppose), due to your added reasoning that people are starting to derail the thread of speculation. So a thread getting derailed by a couple of clowns justifies the making of a new thread about the same issue? Its not easier to ask the people to keep to the topic or just ignore them all together?
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