Crafting is not random

[Zenaku]

i did the same thing i had the book and good gear and i still failed and that using other spells and wait and so on. it may not be random but at the end i still click standard all day long.

[tymora]

Emm... Are you implying "The crafting system is random, deal with it" in a thread with the OP,
that's me,

The initial risk amount is random, as with the "chance of success" of every action. You can reduce the impact on an attempt or improve your odds but it is still there regardless.

[VenusDoom]

Sorry, but a couple minutes of chat log doesn't prove a whole lot. I understand and utilize all the techniques and factors that have been described here, as well as eat crafting food, strive to have the best crafting gear and tools available, (including multiple gear sets to optimize craft, control, m.craft and a balance of the three) appropriate abilities, support, etc. but when I finish a synth with 80 durability left, succeeding every single action, and then repeat the exact same synth without changing any factors or my method and have it fail before 50%, that degree of fluctuation isn't acceptable.

There are alot of factors playing in the synthesis process, some of which we know very little about. But by my understanding, you're opinion should mean that synthesis attempts done with the same gear/abilities/method on the same moon phase and elemental day should produce similar results. That doesn't explain why it isn't uncommon to ace a synth with a ton of durability left, then repeat the same one seconds later without changing any variables and have 7 standard synths on white orbs fail and botch halfway through. If it was easy success followed by a 90% or 80% progress and failure, then sure, that makes sense. However anyone who has a craft past 20 can tell you that certain synth attempts seem doomed to fail from the start without any rhyme or reason.

TL: DR, there is just too much left at the mercy of random number generation.

[VenusDoom]

[Technolust]

Sorry, but a couple minutes of chat log doesn't prove a whole lot. I understand and utilize all the techniques and factors that have been described here, as well as eat crafting food, strive to have the best crafting gear and tools available, (including multiple gear sets to optimize craft, control, m.craft and a balance of the three) appropriate abilities, support, etc. but when I finish a synth with 80 durability left, succeeding every single action, and then repeat the exact same synth without changing any factors or my method and have it fail before 50%, that degree of fluctuation isn't acceptable.

There are alot of factors playing in the synthesis process, some of which we know very little about. But by my understanding, you're opinion should mean that synthesis attempts done with the same gear/abilities/method on the same moon phase and elemental day should produce similar results. That doesn't explain why it isn't uncommon to ace a synth with a ton of durability left, then repeat the same one seconds later without changing any variables and have 7 standard synths on white orbs fail and botch halfway through. If it was easy success followed by a 90% or 80% progress and failure, then sure, that makes sense. However anyone who has a craft past 20 can tell you that certain synth attempts seem doomed to fail from the start without any rhyme or reason.

TL: DR, there is just too much left at the mercy of random number generation.

^ This is why I don't understand how the OP's picture proves that crafting is random.

[tymora]

I thought he didn't mean it literally

[Bahn]

Image of FFXIV crafting algorithm

I need to shove that image down the throat of every person who defends that the current crafting system is OK and should not be changed.

[Teakwood]

VenusDoom that is the best thing I have ever seen. <3

[VenusDoom]

lol I might have made that in the middle of a craft-induced frustration episode. And OP or anyone, I am not trying to discredit your opinion or put you down, just voicing that many of us have had experiences with crafting that cannot be summed up in a screenshot of a few synths.

[MistyMew]

lol I might have made that in the middle of a craft-induced frustration episode. And OP or anyone, I am not trying to discredit your opinion or put you down, just voicing that many of us have had experiences with crafting that cannot be summed up in a screenshot of a few synths.

exactly.

its random.
any abilities may have a minor , almost insignificant effect on the result, but overall its a roll of the dice imo. ;;