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  1. #61
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    Radacci's Avatar
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    Austen Bloodspatter
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    Omega
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    Lancer Lv 80
    you get job skills from job stones, so you equip a stone, and "memories of past battles" makes you learn the previous skills.

    also i'm betting on lv30. 30-70 will take like 2 days...so i don't see the problem.
    I understand from RP perspective that ppl want to start from lv1....and you can....in Palace of the Dead...so take your new job there, at least to lv30; problem solved.
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  2. #62
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
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    Stormblood jobs should not start at 30 or 50 because the grind from 50-60 is huge and takes like 2 weeks of mindless fate grinding.

    I really hope the new jobs start at 60 so if you want to play them you can get right in and do the new expansion content with them.
    There is really no need to FATE grind anymore between roulettes, PoTD, leves, and challenge logs as options for EXP.... If you hate FATEs, there are so many options that give great/better EXP that you can easily do something else.

    I don't know of anyone that exclusively FATE grinds anymore, unless they are on relic/anima and HAVE to. At this point, I think all the FATEs that gave redic EXP have been nerfed pretty hard to the point you can't cheese them like you used to.


    Really, PoTD is the new culprit for overly easy EXP, but it's still a huge step up from FATEs in that it allows you to see, use, and learn about higher level skills as you work through it.
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  3. #63
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    Fevelle's Avatar
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    New jobs should start at level 1 for me.
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  4. #64
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Personally I hope they evolve from classes. Maybe one new class for RDM. I could easily see SAM being a new route from GLD with Rogue as subclass and DNC coming from PUG with CON as second class. Thinking about it, RDM could evolve from THM as well, but I think we want at least one new class... Unless ofc they will completely rewarp the cross class system with the release of the new expansion, as it feels like a stupid system if it will never be further evolved upon.
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  5. #65
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    SigmaOZ's Avatar
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    Sigma Alpheratz
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 99
    Starting at 50 would be nice considering we will have more jobs to level up from 60 to 70!...
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  6. #66
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    Starting at 50 would be nice considering we will have more jobs to level up from 60 to 70!...
    :/ how would they justify that after seeing the jobs in hw start at 30? I personally feel all jobs start at 30 so unless theres a spicy gimmick involved in how theyre unlocked, i dont really see them starting at 50. But they could do this, it just makes me wonder why we had to be 50 to unlock the ishgard jobs that started at 30. Back then 30 was the halfway point to 60 also, so maybe 35? Idk I really think itll be 30, We just gotta see when it happens i guess
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  7. #67
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    Aurora Aura
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    My opinions. They should start at 30. No more no less

    Why: Because Lore-wise that is where the Jobs start. They tied the Job to the Soul Crystal and they always hand those out at Level 30. The Soul Crystal and Weapon is what makes the Job. Other reason being that being stuck with only 5 easy as hell dungeons gets tedious. And spamming two skills gets boring, but another reason is at play. The new jobs will likely be more complex than the 3.0 and 2.X Jobs, and as it stands they likely want players to have some experience in their respective roles before trying it (and maybe get some necessary skills like Swiftcast, Cleric Stance or Provoke, though the changes to the additional actions might make this moot).

    They could start at Level 1, but they would need to have a class attached (which SE doesn't seem to be keen on. Probably due to association with 1.0). They can't start at 50 or 60 because they seem to want to keep this pattern of stones at 30 and because they want to keep from content from that level on accessible. (since players might need it for story and the other attempts at making the content relevant like Wondeorus Tails or the Relics). Plus by that point you clear the requirements for the Binding Coil, the entirely of the Crystal Tower saga and at least Gordias, that's Raid level content for Jobs that people need more experience then you would have just starting).

    For the aforementioned reasons of complexity, they are still gonna gate the Jobs, it just won't be a 1000-quest scenario being the gatekeeper this time (other aspects are a different story).
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    Last edited by Morningstar1337; 10-18-2016 at 12:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    Starting at 50 would be nice considering we will have more jobs to level up from 60 to 70!...
    Why even do that? let's just start them all at max level, Cut out leveling entirely, makes sense.
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  9. #69
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    Sigma Alpheratz
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    :/ how would they justify that after seeing the jobs in hw start at 30? I personally feel all jobs start at 30 so unless theres a spicy gimmick involved in how theyre unlocked, i dont really see them starting at 50. But they could do this, it just makes me wonder why we had to be 50 to unlock the ishgard jobs that started at 30. Back then 30 was the halfway point to 60 also, so maybe 35? Idk I really think itll be 30, We just gotta see when it happens i guess
    So by the time the level cap is 100 you will still want to start new jobs from level 30!?...

    I really don't want to go trough those <50 dungeons again, starting at 50 will still have us grind a lot to reach the new level cap!...
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  10. #70
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    Verrine Mercer
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    Why even do that? let's just start them all at max level, Cut out leveling entirely, makes sense.
    Because 50-60 takes about the same time as 30-50, so if we start them at 50 and the cap is 70, then the leveling is the same amount as we have now.
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