Encyclopædia Eorzea ("Lore Book") Bug Report Thread

[Anonymoose]

PAGE: 037
HEADING: PROSPERITY AND PROGRESS
SUBHEADING: THE RISE OF GARLEMALD / YEARS 1500 - 1560

In the year 1552, the leader of the republic, Solus Galvus, declared Garlemald an empire and appointed himself emperor.

This should be 1522. 1552 was the conclusion of the Othardian campaign with the annexation of Doma.

[ObsidianFire]

Page: 145
Heading: Southern Thanalan
Subheading: Zahar'ak

Loosely translated as "land of perseverance," Zahar'ak is the main stronghold for the Amalj'aa host based in their native Paglth'an. The beast tribe believes the scorched plains of Thanalan to be hallowed ground blessed by the cleansing flames of their primal deity, Ifrit, and as such are intent on driving from the land all whom they deem invaders.

059 Vista Record - Zahar'ak

Loosely translated as "land of perseverance," Zahar'ak is the forward stronghold for the Amalj'aa host based in Zanar'ak. The beast tribe believes the scorched plains of Thanalan to be hallowed ground blessed by the cleansing flames of their primal deity, Ifrit, and as such are intent on driving from the land all whom they deem invaders.

Don't know if this is an actual error or just two different ways of describing the same location. The second sentence is the same between the two entries though and feels like a better description of Zanar'ak then Paglth'an. I looked though the rest of the location descriptions and this is the only description that mentions a different location compared to it's Sightseeing Log in-game.

[Iscah]

Thanks for bringing this thread back up and reminding me to add my long list of notes. Since they've announced volume 2, it's possible volume 1 might get a reprint alongside it.

Also, a general request: please include an index for volume 2! Or at least an alphabetical list of character profiles and which page they can be found on.


SIMPLE ERRORS


PAGE: 052 (timeline)
HEADING: Year 1561

"Alisae" should be "Alisaie"



PAGE: 053 (timeline)
HEADING: Year 1562

"The Ixal summon their god, Garuda." Should that be "goddess"? Or is that a stylistic choice?



PAGE: 149 (Ishgardian history)
HEADING: Love Transcendent

Line 7 refers to Shiva as an "Elezen human" - from other discussions I've read that the term 'human' is an error if it is used in the English version of the game.

HEADING: The End to the Song

Third-last line: "the Ishgardian's sincere desire for peace" - unless this is supposed to refer to Aymeric specifically, it should be "Ishgardians'" (with apostrophe at the end) for plural.



PAGE: 156 (The Ishgardian High Houses)
HEADING: Artoirel de Fortemps

His name is misspelt as Artoriel twice in that text: line 2 of paragraph 1; line 3 of paragraph 2.



PAGE: 157 (The Ishgardian High Houses)
HEADING: Count Tarresson de Dzemael

He's not the current count, and the main text of his profile refers to him as "Lord Tarresson". This may have been a deliberate decision though.



PAGE: 199 (The Crystal Braves)
HEADING: Wilred Glasse

Grammar error split across lines 1 and 2: "this // a..."



PAGE: 243 (Astrologian)
HEADING: Jannequinard de Durandaire

...should be "Durendaire". Spelt correctly in profile text.




LORE QUERIES


PAGE: 153 (Ishgardian organisations)
HEADING: Estinien Wyrmblood

...is that actually his surname? It's the name displayed when he's a battle NPC but for anyone else, that's an epithet and not their name. I doubt it would be his birth surname and he's later adopted by Alberic Bale. (or is that just too boring-sounding to write down instead of Wyrmblood?)



PAGE: 157 (The Ishgardian High Houses)
HEADING: House Durendaire

"...the count's firstborn son disappeared twenty years ago, and since then the line of succession has remained unclear. Whether the count will remarry and attempt to produce another heir, or turn to a rather less than ideal candidate, is an oft-discussed topic amongst the nobility."

Not necessarily incorrect, but relevant to the House Durendaire / AST questline issues I'm writing about below (and I'm keeping these references in page order). This line may need to be revised alongside other things if necessary.



PAGE: 157 (The Ishgardian High Houses)
HEADING: House Haillenarte

Last paragraph: "eldest daughter Laniaitte" - does that mean there are even more Haillenarte family members we haven't met yet?

(Or possibly have met - I did wonder about Aurelle at Dragonhead.)

Also have to mention I'm a bit disappointed that Laniaitte didn't get a profile. I would have thought she'd rate ahead of Elaisse to get included in the 'minor Heavenward characters' on p212.



PAGE: 199 (The Crystal Braves)
HEADING: Wilred Glasse

Described as "a Midlander of Ala Mhigan descent" which is probably correct, but I was under the impression that Ala Mhigan Hyurans (or at very least all the refugees in Little Ala Mhigo) were all Highlander, thus assumed that Wilred must be a Highlander-with-Midlander-model for the sake of character design. Am I mistaken about this?



PAGE: 225, 241, 243
HEADING: [character profiles]

Heustienne, Stephanivien and Jannequinard are all listed as "Elezen (Wildwood)", which is correct by their character models, but lore-wise should that say "Elezen (Ishgardian)"?

The demographic information on p.148 lists Ishgard's main population as "Ishgardian Elezen" rather than sticking to the game's clan labels, so it seems like the character profiles should do the same.



PAGE: 225 (Dragoon)
HEADING: Heustienne de Vimaroix

"Orphaned at a young age, Heustienne was taken in by the noble house of Brucemont."

There's a character in the dragoon quests called Brucemont - I don't remember him having any specific relationship with Heustienne. Her adoptive father is named Montorgains.

(More generally, I've noticed some confusion between fore- and surnames for Elezen NPCs. Some have 'NPC label names' taken from the surname list but then in the lorebook they've been given a surname after that single name.)



PAGE: 229 (Ninja)
HEADING: Oboro Torioi

The second paragraph talks about him fighting against the Garleans, which seems to be referring to the original invasion twenty-five years ago, but must be the recent uprising, as he is only 24.



PAGE: 237 (Scholar)
HEADING: Surito Carito

His age is listed as "1605" but that's not really informative when he spent over 1500 years of it in enchanted stasis, and we don't have a set year for the sealing of the Wanderer's Palace (or at least I couldn't find one) so I can't even do the math to find out how old he 'actually' is.

Also should his race be "Lalafell (Nymian)" or does Plainsfolk cover that?



PAGE: 243 (Astrologian)
HEADING: Leveva Byrde; Jannequinard de Durendaire

SORRY, PET TOPIC.

I've written about this in detail previously (and also in the Localisation forum, somewhat briefer), but the information given in both characters' profiles doesn't match up with what is said in the astrologian quests.

The issues with Leveva's profile were brought up early in this thread (post #18) and got an official response from Fernehalwes (#27) but unfortunately that only addressed one of several points.

Both characters' listed ages are younger than the quest dialogue implies, and the timing of events has been changed. I suspect this may be an attempt to adjust information so it matches up with the apparent intent (or misunderstanding due to conflicting/vague information) that Jannequinard is Carvallain's younger brother, but the quest script as it currently exists in the game makes this impossible. Janne has to be at least in his forties. (Meanwhile the text on p.157 about the count possibly remarrying to produce another heir, makes more sense if Janne is not Charlemend's son, but his brother.)

But setting aside other lore tangles and just comparing the lorebook information and astrologian quests:

- Leveva's age: 16 - she was actually born at the time of the backstory events, "almost twenty years ago"
- her father died a "few years" after her birth - he died in the backstory, at the same time she was born
- (if the timeline IS being officially rewritten, one of the above lorebook statements should probably become correct, but not both)
- discussed earlier in this topic: Fernehalwes' clarification on Leveva's mother (that her real mother died and she was adopted by her aunt) now contradicts the lorebook information that she was taken in by her grandfather after being orphaned.

- Jannequinard's age: 32 - doesn't work with the setting of the backstory events "almost twenty years ago" as he would be only 12-13 at that point. Other dialogue suggests he is currently at least in his 40s, and he seems to be a young adult in the backstory.
- he was in Sharlayan at the time of the evacuation - makes more sense with his age according to this profile (that would make him 17 by this version) but the quest script specifically mentions he was there well prior to those events, and before the Sharlayans' attitude to foreigners changed to be more isolationist.



PAGE: 301 (Bestiary: Elementals)
HEADING: Phurble

Discussed earlier in this topic by someone asking if they were meant to be voidsent (as from previous lore statements) or elementals as listed here, but - not knowing about that previous information - I thought their placement as elementals seems strange. The description at the top of the page says they are "beings almost solely comprised of pure aether" and everything else on the page fits that description, but phurbles appear to be something more physical, particularly as they are hunted (in-game as well as by lore) for their blood and fur. I would have assumed they are beastkin.


PAGE: 301 (Bestiary: Elementals)
HEADING: Faerie

It describes Eos and Selene as "two distinct varieties" of faerie - firstly, does that mean that all faeries (not just the player's faerie Lily) take on both these aspects? And also it would be better to word that so it's clear they are two aspects of one being and not two separate 'clans'. Unless of course your intent is that the "writer of the book" didn't realise that by observing them!

[Iscah]

Also, a request: could we please get a glamour for arcanists' grimoires to make it look like the lorebook?

[Iscah]

A couple of extra things that I forgot about in my previous post, or picked up since:


PAGE: 131 (Outer La Noscea)
HEADING: The Long Climb
SUBHEADING: The Floating City of Nym AND Camp Overlook

Both refer to "Mt. O'Ghomoro" which is not usually given the "Mt." prefix (including elsewhere on the same page).



PAGE: 143 (Central Thanalan)
HEADING: Spineless Basin
SUBHEADING: Fesca's Watch

From reading the main text of this section, I'm fairly sure the heading is supposed to be "Fesca's Wash".



PAGE: 241 (Machinist)
HEADING: Stephanivien de Haillenarte

Fourth-last line: "hiring a Limsa Lominsan..."

I don't think I've seen the full name of the city used for the adjective(?) form elsewhere. Usually it's just "Lominsan".

[Ramesses]

PAGE: 219
HEADING: Paladin
SUBHEADING: Jenlyns Aesc

Just realized there are four misplellings of "Jenlys" instead of "Jenlyns"... virtually all the spellings of his name in the paragraph.

Edit: Please disregard, I found that this was already disclosed and called out on page 3 of the thread. Thank you.

[Iscah]

Some additional queries that have come up from recent forum discussions:


PAGE: 097 (The Maelstrom)
HEADING: R'ashaht Rhiki

"Commander Rhiki left her parent's home..."

Two layers of issue here - the simple one being that if the "parent's" here are her mother and father, that needs to be "parents'" (with apostrophe at the end).

The deeper issue is that it sounds like she's in a 'nuclear family' and by normal Seeker of the Sun lore, she shouldn't be.

The recent Moonfire Faire plotline set us off trying to figure out whether the R tribe in Limsa is supposed to be a functioning tribe or has broken up into individual families, and this description of R'ashaht's family seems to be evidence against it. So if it's an oversight or mistranslation, perhaps it needs to be corrected so we are working from the right facts?

(And some future canon information about how a Miqo'te tribe might function in a city setting would be nice, too.)



PAGE: 255 (Sylphs)
HEADING: Nomenclature

The classification of sylph gender doesn't seem to make sense, scientifically. If the "everbloom" gender directly produces seeds/children and the "latebloom" does not, which should be the defining criterion of which is the 'female-equivalent' and 'male-equivalent' gender, then how is it the everblooms that are considered 'male' by the other races? (I went into more detail on it in this thread.)

Obviously it can't be completely written now, but perhaps some kind of "later they worked out they had it back-to-front, but the incorrect labels had stuck" excuse could be made.

[Rannie]

Page 56
Heading Friends lost and Found

So this is more of just a typo.... In the red text talking about Cid.... Garlond is spelled Garlold.... Was someone laughing while typing it out? lol

[DeMarcy]

hi guys its long time since someone has written here
I try to translate the first lorebook in german but - somehow i stumbled about one phrase which i dont unterstand in german:

Page 26: Amon's genius and obsessive nature made dangerous bedfellows, leading to the death of countless subjects before ultimately bearing fruit.

What does bedfellows mean in this context - cause in german it make no sense xD maybe you can help me with an easier english synonym.

[Anonymoose]

Literally or figuratively, to share a bed means to become a pair.

In English, "to be in bed with" is an idiom for having a mutually beneficial alliance.

So "strange bedfellows" is when such an alliance is unexpected or unusual - that it's an unlikely pair.
(It's a term that Shakespeare made up.)

By extension, any unusual or unexpected combination of things become "strange" or "interesting" bedfellows.
(To the point that you might hear, of a food, "Wow, these ingredients make for strange bedfellows, but it's delicious.")

And then this context is a play on that.

Amon's genius and obsessive nature made for a dangerous combination.