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  1. 11-05-2016 02:19 PM
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    Got confused by the shot focus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louvain View Post
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    Angel Feathers is the Scholar LB3. You'll see that same spot used for the LB3 for many other jobs in the Lorebook. It is not an error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keever View Post
    Angel Feathers is the Scholar LB3. You'll see that same spot used for the LB3 for many other jobs in the Lorebook. It is not an error.
    Ah, I see. The shot confused me as it appears to be focusing on something the fairy herself is doing and the feathers seemed to be the effect of Whispering dawn to me. I'll remove it then.
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    PAGE: 285
    HEADING: SCALEKIN
    SUBHEADING:
    Tyrannosaur

    Known by many as “king of the carnivores,” the tyrannosaur is feared by man and beast alike, its violent nature and insatiable appetite making it one of the deadliest predators in the realm. It’s tiny, almost comical arms are all but ignored by the tyrannosaur while hunting, opting instead to employ the sheer speed granted by its muscular rear legs, and the rows of knifelike teeth that line its massive maw to subdue and slaughter its prey.
    Its.

    Also, I've gone back and forth on reporting this a few times, so let's just call this a "might-be". There might be a lot of missing commas in these mob blurbs. I run into a lot of double adjectives and interrupters that seem to just run-on straight through.
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    PAGE: 51
    HEADING: Timeline
    SECTION: Autumn War stuff

    In the 1468 part, it's called the First Battle of Tinoqla. In 1469, it's the Second Battle of Tinolqa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sounsyy View Post
    HEADING: The Near East - Ilsabard or Thavnair?

    <snip>

    My assumption is that the region known as the Near East must include all of these islands and small landmasses in the Bounty / Jade Sea as well as the southern tip of Ilsabard, but the revelation seemed to come out of left field is all?
    How is that out of left field? It seems in line with the in-game references you cited.

    Particularly the reference to "the Near Eastern island of Thavnair" clearly indicates that Thavnair is just one portion of the Near East. That phrasing wouldn't make sense if they were somehow one and the same. It's like when someone refers to "the Hawaiian island of Oahu" they're not claiming that Oahu is the entirety of Hawaii, but just that it lies within that state, and is the part of it that's under discussion.

    It's true that none of those in-game references addressed the question of what else is in the Near East, but the encyclopedia seems to be simply filling in formerly missing information rather than changing anything.

    The other in-game references you cited are simply talking about Thavnair or Radz-at-Han. Would you find it weird if someone got to sample Parisian cooking during a trip to France? Or if someone importing American goods into Europe purchased them from a New York based company? Paris isn't a synonym for France, nor is New York a synonym for America, but they're prominent places within their respective countries. The encyclopedia points out that the civilization of Radz-at-Han is very prominent in the region, so it's not surprising that that's where a lot of the trade between the Near East and Eorzea would come from (leading to it being the part we've seen the most references to so far).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    How is that out of left field? It seems in line with the in-game references you cited. Particularly the reference to "the Near Eastern island of Thavnair" clearly indicates that Thavnair is just one portion of the Near East.
    The assumption has always been that the Near East was, at most, another island chain or archipelago similar to the Cieldalaes or Sharlayan. For the past six years, the Near East has seemingly only ever referred to Thavnair, with many texts going from "Near Eastern" to "Thavnairian" and back in an interchangeable fashion. So for six years we've only seen "Hawaii" refer specifically to "Oahu," to use your example, and absolutely nothing else. Now we know Thavnair is but one tiny island in the greater Bounty that is the Near East and that's totally awesome to learn.

    But apparently it also now refers to what seems to be a rather sizable portion of a continent we've known for five-ish years by two completely different designations. That's what I was referring to as feeling out of left field. Essentially everything south of Dalmasca, which is nestled in Ilsabard's central mountains (apparently), is a part of the Near East also, if I'm understanding the lore book correctly. So basically a good portion of Ilsabard, if not half of it, is referred to by Eorzeans as the Near East, but before the lore book, Ilsabard has always been referred to as two things: "the northern great continent" or "the seat of the Garlean Empire in the northeast." It's not that either of these two designations are incorrect, it's just that we've never once seen something as simple as "Near Eastern Ilsabard."

    My hope in listing the Near Eastern issue on this thread wasn't to get anything corrected necessarily, but to encourage future Near Eastern lore text to reference places other than Thavnair from now on, now that we know this region is perhaps larger than the entirety of the Far East and is certainly more encompassing than just a "tiny island across the Sea of Jade." That's all.

    If you're curious to see more on the Near East though, my pre-book collection is here.
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    PAGE: 279
    HEADING: VILEKIN
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    : Tarantula Hawk

    <...> employed the vilekin at Saint Mocianne’s Arboretum to pollenate the thousands of rare and exotic species <...>
    Pollinate
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    Thanks for popping in and keeping us in the loop! <furiously scribbling notes into bestiary>

    It's kind of poetic that the book is actually helping clean up in-game wording and development notes in turn. All three entities end up benefiting one another as they're polished up, and it's looking like everything is going to end up quite clean, in the end. From the changes between versions to the fast-paced workload, it's seemed like even the back-end resources weren't quite as consistent as your team was able to make them seem with the addendums and "recent discoveries" and backing your way out of having to literally retcon just about anything (aside from a little stitching on Darnus and that one incident with the Labyrinth we try not to talk about).

    That's cause for some pretty strong congratulations to all of you over there!
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 11-15-2016 at 12:28 PM.
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    RIP Meracydia theory ...maybe. But I'm looking forward to finding out about those Elezen! Thanks so much for dropping in Fernehalwes and dropping some knowledge on us!
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