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    Quote Originally Posted by Unittj View Post
    Do we have a love triangle in the Eorzean pantheon? Is Oschon the god of wanderers cause he can't commit? Who will ultimately claim the heart of the ruler of mountains?

    Errata though, it was stated prior to the creation myth Menphina was Oschon's lover, but Lewphon says the definitive tale says otherwise.
    This isn't actually an error. Oschon and Llymlaen had a "thing" and by thing I mean Oschon seemed to like Llymlaen a little too much, but Llymlaen rejected one of his creepier advances, which led him to later take Menphina as His divine Lover. So not errata, just obscure lore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navigator's Brand
    Cousin to the Navigator's dagger, fishers believe that this wavekin was the blade that Llymlaen threw at Oschon in Her fury at having Her naked form espied. The incident led to the latter taking Menphina as His lover.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes
    Mochizuki-san asked if there was some connection between Oschon and Llymlaen, Oda-san answering that in mythology there were several connections, Oschon being the god of mountains, Llymlaen being the goddess of the seas. He mentions that there are even stories that mention a curious Oschon sneaking a peek at a bathing Llymlaen, to which the goddess replies by throwing a knife at the peeping Wanderer. Mochizuki-san finds this absurd, but Oda-san mentions that similar types of stories exist even in Greek mythology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unittj View Post
    One of these things is not like the other.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sounsyy View Post
    Oschon and Llymlaen had a "thing" and by thing I mean Oschon seemed to like Llymlaen a little too much, but Llymlaen rejected one of his creepier advances, which led him to later take Menphina as His divine Lover. So not errata, just obscure lore.
    Barring the possibility that I'm just missing an obvious bridge here ... (2 a.m. plus Greek-inspired god-math? Big possibility.) ... can it not be both? The creation story seems to omit the connection between Menphina and Oschon ("divine lovers"), so is it not odd that it would say that Llymlaen was over the moon (pun intended) for him when all we know is that he spied on her naked and got a knife thrown at him?

    Even if it's not an error, it's weird for nothing to close that gap, no? To be more specific, the creation story says that his winds brought love into her heart, but they never had children because they were rarely together. And the dagger-throw is where he refocused his interests on Menphina. So, if his very existence won her over, how do we get from there to him feeling "curious" enough to peep on her, and her being "furious" enough at him to throw a knife?
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    "The imbalance of power has greatly informed the territorial feauds of Ilsabard."
    I believe informed should be influenced. I could be mistaken, but every time I read it the wording doesn't make sense and I've never seen an example like this used in any of my other readings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louvain View Post
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    I believe informed should be influenced. I could be mistaken, but every time I read it the wording doesn't make sense and I've never seen an example like this used in any of my other readings.
    No, this is an accurate use of the word. It's rare, but it's not incorrect. See this definition from dictionary.com:

    "Inform: to give evident substance, character, or distinction to; pervade or permeate with manifest effect:
    A love of nature informed his writing."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinoto-no-Ryuji View Post
    No, this is an accurate use of the word. It's rare, but it's not incorrect. See this definition from dictionary.com:

    "Inform: to give evident substance, character, or distinction to; pervade or permeate with manifest effect:
    A love of nature informed his writing."
    ah, I see. Thanks.
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    For Citizen - Lower Citizens, the "Bas" title is listed, however, lore from Gubal lists the title for citizenry as "Ban."

    Quote Originally Posted by On Garlean Hierarchy Vol. 2
    This hierarchy extends to the general populace as well, though it is far less complex. The majority of citizens bear the "Ban" title, and there is a smaller group which appears to be comprised of respected artisans who have adopted the "Cen" title.
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    I think this one might have shown up earlier in the thread, but to be sure...

    Quote Originally Posted by Encyclopedia Eorzea pg193
    Formerly of the Circle of Knowing, Una was once part of a crew that included the pugilist Percevains and the archer Satzfloh.
    Circle of Knowing should be Path of the Twelve.

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    The son of a Near Eastern Hyuran merchant in Radz-at-Han, Ardashir traveled with his father so as to learn the family business.
    Quote Originally Posted by Encyclopedia Eorzea pg208
    Ignoring his father's protests, the Far Eastern Hyuran became the apprentice of a famous alchemist, and has been conducting research on anima since.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Even if it's not an error, it's weird for nothing to close that gap, no? To be more specific, the creation story says that his winds brought love into her heart, but they never had children because they were rarely together. And the dagger-throw is where he refocused his interests on Menphina. So, if his very existence won her over, how do we get from there to him feeling "curious" enough to peep on her, and her being "furious" enough at him to throw a knife?
    To be fair, yeah, this is the first time we've seen any mention of Llymlaen reciprocating any feelings towards Oschon. But it is strange, now that I've gone back and read the creation myth again that they make no mention of Menphina winding up with Oschon. I still don't see it necessarily as an error or a name swap, but it is definitely an odd thing to leave out.

    I wonder though...
    Quote Originally Posted by Moraby Flounder
    Legend states that once a normal fish, the flounder was stepped upon by the Wanderer during one of His journeys, and left for dead. Upon finding the fish, the Navigator succeeded in breathing life back into the denizen of the deep, but could not restore it from its new flattened form.
    ...was Llymlaen following Oschon around? Did she long to be with him so much that she tried to follow him on his journeys? Maybe Oschon's disregard for the life Llymlaen birthed into the world was what eventually drove her to reject Oschon's transient visits to the seaside. Though if I had a knife handy, I'd probably toss it at a peeping Oschon too.
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    Section: All the Heavensward Biographies

    Every member of the Heavensward has the nobiliary particle "de" in their names, even the low-born ones like Paulecrain and Charibert.
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