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    Siegfried Reinfold
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    What job was she?

    What job do you guys think Alisaie turned into in 3.4?

    I don't know if it was RDM because it didn't look like she was holding a rapier
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    Samniel Atkascha
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    There's already a post about this on the second page of this subforum the tl;dr of the "we don't know but it could be" boiled down to:

    Red Mage
    Rune Fencer
    Mystic Knight
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    Will Brannigan
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    Red Mage for sure. If you speak to her in the rising stones she spouts off some line about not focusing on one area of magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    Red Mage for sure. If you speak to her in the rising stones she spouts off some line about not focusing on one area of magic.
    On the other hand her defining characteristic was sword magic. My inclination is that, given what Yoshi has said in the past about Red Mage not really suiting the tank/healer/DPS paradigm, it's going to be Mystic Knight/Rune Fencer but with lore that cribs from Red Mage. Much the same way that Summoner/Scholar/Arcanist cannibalize some of the thematics of Calculator.
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiaryn View Post
    On the other hand her defining characteristic was sword magic. My inclination is that, given what Yoshi has said in the past about Red Mage not really suiting the tank/healer/DPS paradigm, it's going to be Mystic Knight/Rune Fencer but with lore that cribs from Red Mage. Much the same way that Summoner/Scholar/Arcanist cannibalize some of the thematics of Calculator.
    go team mystic knight!
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    Rocl Montaigne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiaryn View Post
    On the other hand her defining characteristic was sword magic. My inclination is that, given what Yoshi has said in the past about Red Mage not really suiting the tank/healer/DPS paradigm, it's going to be Mystic Knight/Rune Fencer but with lore that cribs from Red Mage. Much the same way that Summoner/Scholar/Arcanist cannibalize some of the thematics of Calculator.
    You know I hadn't even considered that possibility, that's a good one. (The cannibalization of Red Mage and weaving it to another class)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    You know I hadn't even considered that possibility, that's a good one. (The cannibalization of Red Mage and weaving it to another class)
    well technically in order for a mystic knight to use a spell sword ability, you had to have at least learned or possessed the spell, so i guess it would make more sense if they expanded on it and gave it fire as well as fire sword, or something. i dunno. Whatever she did though had to be its limit break, hopefully it will give us something new, a melee caster, or a true magic tank, or something. Doubt theyll make it a tank branching from acn, that would be silly but very unexpected
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiaryn View Post
    On the other hand her defining characteristic was sword magic. My inclination is that, given what Yoshi has said in the past about Red Mage not really suiting the tank/healer/DPS paradigm, it's going to be Mystic Knight/Rune Fencer but with lore that cribs from Red Mage. Much the same way that Summoner/Scholar/Arcanist cannibalize some of the thematics of Calculator.
    Red Mage is 10000% better for marketing so it'd be the other way around with Red Mage taking a bunch of stuff from other sources.
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    Alisette Dumont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiaryn View Post
    My inclination is that, given what Yoshi has said in the past about Red Mage not really suiting the tank/healer/DPS paradigm, it's going to be Mystic Knight/Rune Fencer but with lore that cribs from Red Mage.
    I don't really see why RDM wouldn't fit the paradigm, all you would have to do is take away it's healing spells for it to become a dps. Then just give it some magic sword skills and voila... It could even keep a healing spell/action as a self heal (akin to Second Wind) to keep the 'all round' idea.

    (I could really see it work with a regular damage combo that stocks a resource, which can then be used to release an elemental attack to invoke the idea of magic being used. But that is neither here nor there. We will have to see what SE does with the class, if they indeed use it.)
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice_89th View Post
    I don't really see why RDM wouldn't fit the paradigm, all you would have to do is take away it's healing spells for it to become a dps. Then just give it some magic sword skills and voila... It could even keep a healing spell/action as a self heal (akin to Second Wind) to keep the 'all round' idea.

    (I could really see it work with a regular damage combo that stocks a resource, which can then be used to release an elemental attack to invoke the idea of magic being used. But that is neither here nor there. We will have to see what SE does with the class, if they indeed use it.)
    Exactly. In theory ANY existing FF job could be made to fit within FFXIV's trinity paradigm; all it takes is a little creativity in reshaping their toolset whilst retaining the core gameplay and themes. The same goes for Blue Mage which is also regularly said to be impossible with XIV's role structure. If anything though, I would much rather we just get hybrid jobs that are forced to lock into a role in the DF and have their skills limited when in group content. Let RDMs be a jack of all trades and then simply choose to be a healer or dps when queueing. There are other MMOs that do this and it works fine.
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