Limitations

[hobostew]

People are really getting their hopes up but I'm pretty sure most of the improvements from not supporting PS3 are gonna be UI related and not what people are expecting.

[Saccharin]

Your saying with 58 servers, players can't have these bits of content? What part of Server issues will prevent any of these exactly? Load times? I'm pretty sure that's what PS3 limitations were suppose to fix.

it has something to do with the fact that these servers are still physical hardware and can't process infinitely much stuff. that's why you'll still have a character display limit even if you have the most powerful pc on earth. much of the framework of the game is specifically designed for these servers, so just upgrading them doesn't really change anything.

As the poster said above.

The server code is god awful compared to some older MMOs. If 2.x code is better than 1.x code I hate to think how limiting 1.x servers were.

[LineageRazor]

I think folks are missing how tongue-in-cheek the original post is. The whole point is that NONE of these things were missing because of so-called "PS3 limitations". PS3 was simply the scapegoat that players decided to blame the whole situation on. And now that PS3 is going away, these folks are in for an unpleasant surprise, if they think these enhancements are gonna come a rollin' in. XD

[ADVSS]

The only thing the ps3 couldnt handle is multiple objects and graphics, thats it. your inv issues were always server side, all the limits were always server side, now its ps4 limitations as likeminded people like myself stated the only thing it couldnt handle was graphics and object viewing. what does any of that stuff hae to do with adding a real fc airship to ride on, on anything with more substance than "its preeeeetty?"? Nothing, really. Sure ps3 hled itself back, with different aoes, limited pretty effects, etc. but theres no reason they couldnt chop it out for ps3 and have pc/ps4 revel in the
textures" not surprised its ps4 limitations, told you all so. Playing games with nearly miollions of custom items and options, and we got limited storage on here? yeah right.

[Zafrei]

Putting all the thread salt to one side for a moment, I suppose pointing out the obvious - that not all 'limitations' can be attributed to the PS3 - isn't going to help much?

[Kurogaea]

Putting all the thread salt to one side for a moment, I suppose pointing out the obvious - that not all 'limitations' can be attributed to the PS3 - isn't going to help much?

Probably. My question as of now after the new founded "Server Limitations" restraint has taken PS3 limitations place, what will removing the PS3 help in regards to in-game content. To me, I'm thinking jack-s@!# other than relieving some load times from duties and such. And according to that last person I responded to, the code for these servers are outdated than others, so either someone is making s@$# up as the game goes or just looking for an excuse to remove PS3 for graphic overhauls....or spite of PS3's inability to look how SE wants it.

[Vaer]

Probably. My question as of now after the new founded "Server Limitations" restraint has taken PS3 limitations place, what will removing the PS3 help in regards to in-game content. To me, I'm thinking jack-s@!# other than relieving some load times from duties and such. And according to that last person I responded to, the code for these servers are outdated than others, so either someone is making s@$# up as the game goes or just looking for an excuse to remove PS3 for graphic overhauls....or spite of PS3's inability to look how SE wants it.

They said they were adding new UI elements (they mentioned something for buffs like BoTD) so there's that (PS3 could barely support focus target as it was), also maybe save time having to test everything for one less platform.

[Zafrei]

Probably. My question as of now after the new founded "Server Limitations" restraint has taken PS3 limitations place, what will removing the PS3 help in regards to in-game content. To me, I'm thinking jack-s@!# other than relieving some load times from duties and such. And according to that last person I responded to, the code for these servers are outdated than others, so either someone is making s@$# up as the game goes or just looking for an excuse to remove PS3 for graphic overhauls....or spite of PS3's inability to look how SE wants it.

It does sound like you're just generally angry with the game at the moment.

There does need to be a level of acceptance that sometimes 'limitations' is as it sounds. It may even be that in some circumstances, those limitations can be broken through, however if the costs in development far outweigh any possible benefits (which given some player demands might actually be the case), then can people really expect them to do it?

I guess what I'm saying is that they'll do everything they can to make a decent game with the engine they have - but that engine was built at a certain time and with certain parameters in mind. Yes they may be able to tweak it from time to time, but don't expect anything revolutionary as the costs likely outweigh any possible benefit, and that's okay.

[Kurogaea]

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I'm actually annoyed by the decisions as to why they removed PS3, as its still not clear why, and on the border of bored and anticipation with 14, just heavily supported with friends keeping me from finally saying "BYE B#!$%es! " but that's beside the point.

Your basically saying I should except everything the way it is when they're removing a service that won't change much that I may or may not have spent 60$ and 2 years and a half of subcription just to get my platform S%$# canned. As far as accepting limitations goes, I think its pretty justified to think in such a way.

On to development costs, time and resources are always a thing as well. I'd rather have them take their time and gather the resources for something worth while instead of...this. If they know some of their content will be somewhat Lack luster/crap (airships) then they should focus their time to make something more generally enjoyable, like actually driving them and exploring islands.

I'm not asking (me personally) for anything revolutionary, but the normally expected instead of the absolute minimum, which is what they've been giving out as of late. Some say the patch cycle in this game are the best in any MMO. I for one, wouldn't know a thing about that since this is the only MMO I took the time to even pay attention to patch notes, but I'm pretty sure the saying goes like "Quality over quantity." I don't think any amount development costs will change that unless it went in with recruiting members for the dev team. I think that was a problem too at some point, but yeah. (also, graphics don't mean much to me)

Short version:
Annoyed, not angry.
Dev Costs (not really any of our business BUT), don't mean anything if the plans for content is already a bit crappy.
Not looking for groundbreaking content, just not as bland as it is now.

Actually most of these requests aren't even that crazy sounding, aside from the primal summoning but we already have parmours so that excuse it out the window. Capes, maybe, and hoodies, we literally have parts of our hair that vanish depending on what we wear on our heads. They can just make the back disappear and keep the front hair wthout the butt ugly bald caps? Ok, rant done.

[Zafrei]

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Thanks for the summary, well thought out and I can empathise with where you're coming from. That said though, I don't agree on some points. Having played a few mmos, I can safely say that for me personally, this is one of the only ones left that seems to put out consistently high quality. It's certainly the only one I can think of that I've played (never played WoW) that still does the decent thing in charging a sub and delivering the goods - rather than spending all of its dev resources on squeezing every last cent of the playerbase. For that it gets my utmost respect.

In terms of PS3, from a technical standpoint I'm sure you can agree that had they continued to support it, it would've stifled growth if it hasn't already. Graphical and memory capabilities are far below modern PCs or gaming systems, so if they do want to try to squeeze more out of their engine, then it PS3 support would have had to go eventually anyway. Also it shouldn't come as a surprise, it's been hinted at for a while and largely known by the playerbase. Still I know that sucks if you're still using one, so sorry about that, but I'm glad as a player who wants to see what more they can do with the engine and the game world.