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  1. #31
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    CookieMonsta's Avatar
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    Shirayuki Kova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aijin-Sama View Post
    As a last request from all of you polite ppl for those Favoring Det post a vid of your dps betting mine In a12s dummy challenge if if one of you bested me by 50+ dps with the same crit rate that I did or 1% more with ilvl 253 and a weapon of ilvl255. if you all think I am wrong then prove it with your dps vid on this matter , I am using mega pot so all of you know .i respect krindor
    Coz he posted his vid but I was above him by 80dps not saying this to discriminate DET so prove me wrong then
    Lol because can't beat science? have to rely on a cherry picked example to beat your cherry picked sample, which is RnG, imprecise and ultimately useless as a sample size to prove ur point?

    Btw I'll also point out ur hitting dummy test is useless from a measurement standpoint. Why? because depending on the termination time of measurement, your results can vary and can introduce bias towards either build. This is before factoring in Crit, thus your measurement is imprecise by design.
    If you really want to prove your point, record a couple of hundred attempts at the hitting dummy, then average the DPS number. Then someone else with Det will do the same, then we can talk about which is superior.

    Otherwise, you are just comparing two outliers, which is worthless in science.
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    Last edited by CookieMonsta; 10-18-2016 at 07:39 PM.

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  3. #32
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    Khubla Kha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    Um....actually Skill Speed and Spell Speed were updated to effect the damage output of DoTs. It's in the tooltip. Rather than making them tick more often however, Skill Speed increase the potency. It's weird and doesn't really make sense, but it does work that way.

    EDIT: My fault for not thoroughly reading every post in the thread before responding....I didn't realize that he was suggesting that Skill Speed directly buffs weapon skill damage. I interpreted the quoted response as stating that DoTs are not buffed by SS.
    I wasn't clear in my phrasing. Your clarification was helpful. Sorry for not being clear in my meaning. And I wasn't intending my tone to be antagonistic at all just a question on where that misunderstanding was coming from.
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  4. #33
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aijin-Sama View Post
    Then the discussion is done thank you all for joining in and thx for all of your polite post hope ppl who visit this topic will benefit from this discussion thank you all
    So you say if no one posts a video where he/she beats you in dps, you are right and SkS is by far better than DET? If you not even want to try it yourself to proof people wrong, why should they try to proof that math is right and you are wrong?

    I'm not gonna tell you that SkS sucks, if you are fine with it its your choice. But like i said, as long as you didn't try DET out you can't tell people they are wrong, because that is what you did more or less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Ivan Ooze
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    believe you can macro your Weapon skill if u have 2secc recast time any more like 2.01 the macro will not run . for mudra we cant macro as SE doesn't allow us to have a x.x delay in the macro . it has to be either 1 sec or 2 sec. around 720 sks u can get the 2sec ..it kinda fun .. you just have to run the macro and weave in your mudra and other Ogcd...

    higher Det = more the dmg per hit
    higher sks = more hit time

    exp like I have a recast time of 2.06 . in 1 min can maybe hit 29.1 of ws + 29.1 auto in ... with 2sec 30 weopen skills +30 auto attack . tat if u hit ur buttons like a GOD and with 0 DELAY.

    realistically don't think is possible for anyone to make use off high Sks .
    it will give u less room to do ur mudra (a fix amount of time) .

    dont think tat add hit will make a big different as usually DET dmg should off set the add hit. DET should win unless Sks has very big impact on ur 2 dots
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  6. #35
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    Valenth Guiran
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    Perhaps a bit off-topic, but I feel perhaps FFXIV should do something like SWTOR did with the whole "haste" attribute on combat, make it literally speed up everything on a char except for runspeed. With it did was basically reduce GCD, CD's and regeneration of resources by the same amount. So if your char hit 20% faster, your cd's would be 20% shorter, your TP/MP would regenerate 20% faster (or more if we have to rely on server ticks), DoT's ticked 20% faster (or more again), etc. The advantage of this was that your rotation wouldn't be messed up if you'd hit faster in the end. In FFXIV we see having faster speed can be disadvantagious because it makes your TP drain faster, or possibly your rotation not alligning anymore with your CD's.

    Oh well, here's to hoping perhaps with the Stormblood Combat Revamp? ^^
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  7. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanhere View Post
    believe you can macro your Weapon skill if u have 2secc recast time
    So...you want high sks so you can macro your gcd skills? Good god. And what you suggest wouldn't work. Even with 0 latency the animation delays would prevent you from getting even a raiton off the way you're describing. And then because you're running several gcds on a macro (which is terrible btw) your 2nd one wouldn't go off, your 3rd would, but would be out of combo, huge dps loss. And even without ninjutsu, what if you had to move away from the boss the moment your 2nd skill was going to go? Absolutely terrible idea.
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  8. #37
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    I think your DPS would be more validated if you post a vid of yourself in actual fights. Nobody cares what you do on a dummy.
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