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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norleas View Post
    I agree. I wish we just kept building up from our zetas.
    I don't think the Anima should be locked behind Zeta, or the 4.0 Relic should be locked behind Anima...

    But I think it should be worked in better than just giving it away for materials to make the replacement.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    ermm i feel you have misunderstood a point, it's more make a spirit become sentient, more than creating life.... creating life means create from nothing, there we take the spirit of a weapon and awakened it. but in the end it's still a weapon at the base, the fact that the shape evolve with him progression is not really surprizing.
    The soul was created by science, the weapon by smithing. Both have not existed before. Creating a soul, creating a body for the soul and fuse both together is creating new life.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    From what I understand, the Zodiac Zeta weapon wasn't destroyed or anything, it was just traded in for the Umbral and Astral Nodes... So it is still intact, but as a part of that one lady's collection somewhere... And you also get a replica of the weapon.

    But in terms of the story doing it all, with a sentient weapon especially, is kind of cruel.
    "I no longer need you, kthxbai, oh and I got this thing that looks like you."
    It does actually say that weapon will be destroyed and that the weapon tale will come to an end. The lady does say she will make them out of the Zodiac weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snat View Post
    It does actually say that weapon will be destroyed and that the weapon tale will come to an end. The lady does say she will make them out of the Zodiac weapon.
    I stand corrected then, I never went ahead with getting a Zeta relic simply because the quests for it were very much not worth the time and cost...
    Just that dialogue felt that it suggested more that it would just be traded for the Nodes rather than made into them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    That's like saying that chicken you ate the other day lives on because you consumed it. When that isn't really true at all.
    But........the chicken can become replicated, right? RIGHT?????
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    actually is a bit more complicate than we did create a weapon and we did create a soul by science, what is not what we have done, it's more the weapon by itself did grow soo much that it develop a soul, but not sentient. it's animist concept that everything have a soul, a rock, a flower even a table....

    anyway, i feel people get quite sensitive about a world where magic is doing weird stuff and try to put morale of our world without magic, mostly secured (yes we don't have monster roaming outside our town) and with only human.... don't try to fit morale or principe that can't fit into a world that is soo much different.
    for now, we don't know how it will evolve. maybe for us that have done the hw part, it will be simply the continuation of what we have done soo far. and simply do give a new body to our partner.

    ps: i will be kinda violent for one second: the whole process to create a video game is creating an universe and lifeform that don't exist from nothing... we create event where we kill tons of them, looting the body of people we did slay and such. don't you have more trouble with this? because as human being, what they do is something considered as a crime in our world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    But........the chicken can become replicated, right? RIGHT?????
    And yet is a different chicken. Once you eat or kill the original well it don't live on anymore.

    Don't get me started on trees, paper, and doors.
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  8. #38
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    What stage are we on anima now if going by zeta's timeline?
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    There's always the chance that you'll get to scrap it for parts for the next weapon.
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    I wrote this a while back, in a different thread. I'd say it applies well to the discussion at hand:

    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Weapon: Master, thank you so much! I am now an independent being! I love being alive, I love being who I am, and I love you!
    Gerolt: Welp, this weapon has evolved pretty much as far as it can go. For the next stage, I propose we melt it down into a glaze and use it to coat this new prototype weapon I created!
    Me: *Stoic nod*
    Weapon: Eh, wha...?
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