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  1. #51
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    Let's just make all the new roles DPS since clearly we don't have enough of them :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiteless View Post
    And since DRK never used a scythe before FF11, it obviously should not have be given one for that game either (all kidding aside though, it really shouldn't have. Scythes are silly). A mixed range job could open up new design opportunities that haven't really been explored by other classes. It just so happens that the samurai has the perfect background, being a warrior caste that relied on the mastery of a wide variety of weapons, for such a concept.
    DRK in FFXI could still equip and use all of it's iconic weaponry. You're trying to compare apples and oranges with that and you know it. Again, Samurai in Final Fantasy games are not masters of a wide variety of weapons.
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    Would be more interesting for SAM to be a bit of a hybrid class. Seeing as we have things like oaths and cleric stance with not have something that makes them better at damage or threat generation? If you were to Qeue as a tank then the tank stance would be automatically turned on with no ability to turn it off and DPS wouldn't be able to use it unless there is no tank in the group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    DRK in FFXI could still equip and use all of it's iconic weaponry. You're trying to compare apples and oranges with that and you know it. Again, Samurai in Final Fantasy games are not masters of a wide variety of weapons.
    And DRK also always used to sacrifice health in order to power its abilities. Now it does the exact opposite. Bards use bows instead of harps. People complained for a while, as though it were the end of the world, but eventually they got over it. It will be unlikely that Samurai also gets a Zeninage ability that actually costs gil. But things change, and there's extremely rich historical source material to work with that could fit perfectly into a wide variety of concepts in a game that has trouble with homogeniety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    Let's just make all the new roles DPS since clearly we don't have enough of them :P
    4 man dungeons are 1 tank, 1 healer 2 dps, most 24 man allys have 12-15 dps, (actually it has not been 12 since LOA) 6 tank 6 healers, yea, the odds will always be heavy on dps because they are required in large numbers for most content and set ups, but people like a good selection, and want to see their old, favorite jobs in. i see nothing wrong with it, SE has been decent at keeping the balance in jobs list, so whatever dps they add, it will even out with new healer/tank later on.
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    Please look forward to it.
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    Tanking is boring.

    #FACT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Tanking is boring.

    #FACT

    pretty much this.
    but hey too many dps.
    but drk was just ended up as a pld replacement.
    but we cant possibly be open to jobs that fulfill 2 different roles
    but drk sucked
    but ast didnt compete with sch for crap
    but we need more of the same, from both roles
    but dps can do other things
    but whu tank and no dps
    why not both no lets do one or other
    but why either role sucks ut should be a shealer get it?
    but we got too many shealers we need a tps

    DO YOU WANT BALANCE?

    then youre asking for a DPS tank that rivals warrior youre also asking for a dps healer that rivals scholar'

    DO YOU WANT GAMEPLSY

    then youre certainly asking or more dps its the only role to break the mold of the other two roles
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    Last edited by ADVSS; 10-16-2016 at 07:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Tanking is boring for me.

    #FACT
    im curious, can you give me a detailed explanation of why tanking is boring?
    pd: i fixed for you, dont speak for all next time thanks
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    Last edited by shao32; 10-17-2016 at 12:53 AM.

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    Tanking is not boring it just requires more thought than dpsing.

    The lore behind samurai is more tank meta but I think people would be happy if it were dps. But I hope it's not 1 2 3 4 like other melee dps
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