Samurai Tank...

[Kyuuen]

funny i have friends and i meet many ppl how change roles thanks to DRK and WAR meta and stay today

Yes, but out of those friends and people you have met, that is no where near large enough to form a statistic comparable to the player base or even just the tanking population, to say that not adding a tank or healer will off set the balance of the roulettes, or even the game.

[Yeol]

Samurai: Tank
Red Mage: Healer
Dancer: Support Melee

Now we'll have

4 Tanks (PLD/WAR/DRK/SAM)
4 Healers (WHM/SCH/AST/RDM)
2 Melees (MNK/DRG)
2 Casters (BLM/SMN)
2 Support Melee (NIN/DNC)
2 Support Range (BRD/MCH)

[jomoru]

There is no reason to add anything, other than "people want it".

Your argument's logic would just be used against you with any counter point you would then try to make.

There are no "missing Dps slots" that need to be filled. There are "I think it would be really cool to have this class" there is no objective need or requirement for anything.

Unless 4.0 changes things so Dps is the hardest role we aren't going to see much change but any argument from authority on slots is just silly. Say "I want a Whip dps class" or "I want a melee pet dps class" rather than trying(and failing miserably) to sound objective.

[Kiteless]

Well, it doesn't necessarily have to use a katana to be a samurai. Historically, katanas were actually pretty terrible weapons, with the samurai relying more on the bow, spear, and later rifle. Having a samurai that used some combination of those weapons in a mixed-range fighting style would be pretty cool.

[FallenWings]

Well, it doesn't necessarily have to use a katana to be a samurai. Historically, katanas were actually pretty terrible weapons, with the samurai relying more on the bow, spear, and later rifle. Having a samurai that used some combination of those weapons in a mixed-range fighting style would be pretty cool.

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[Shippuu]

Well, it doesn't necessarily have to use a katana to be a samurai. Historically, katanas were actually pretty terrible weapons, with the samurai relying more on the bow, spear, and later rifle. Having a samurai that used some combination of those weapons in a mixed-range fighting style would be pretty cool.

This isn't historical Samurai though. This is Final Fantasy Samurai, which every iteration has used a Katana as their primary weapon. Having them use something else primarily is not doing justice to the job at all. That's like adding a Paladin that uses a staff, or a Dark Knight that uses daggers etc. It's not, nor ever has been, the main identity of the job in past Final Fantasy games.

[Kiteless]

This isn't historical Samurai though. This is Final Fantasy Samurai, which every iteration has used a Katana as their primary weapon. Having them use something else primarily is not doing justice to the job at all. That's like adding a Paladin that uses a staff, or a Dark Knight that uses daggers etc. It's not, nor ever has been, the main identity of the job in past Final Fantasy games.

And since DRK never used a scythe before FF11, it obviously should not have be given one for that game either (all kidding aside though, it really shouldn't have. Scythes are silly). A mixed range job could open up new design opportunities that haven't really been explored by other classes. It just so happens that the samurai has the perfect background, being a warrior caste that relied on the mastery of a wide variety of weapons, for such a concept.

[ErikMynhier]

Sure they only showed two silhouettes on "New Jobs", but hopefully they'll reveal new jobs during JP FanFest in December.

Yup this. I'll admit I was thinking 3 but that silhouette pretty much says 2, at least to me.

[Claire_Pendragon]

There are no "missing Dps slots" that need to be filled. There are "I think it would be really cool to have this class" there is no objective need or requirement for anything.

I agree with this, which is why I said it. (Though "Objective" in your statement suggest you have an objective in mind, but arent telling us what it is, so going by the next statement, I assume you mean "role" more than anything. Unless of course I missed it earlier in the thread.)

Unless 4.0 changes things so Dps is the hardest role we aren't going to see much change but any argument from authority on slots is just silly. Say "I want a Whip dps class" or "I want a melee pet dps class" rather than trying(and failing miserably) to sound objective.

I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say with this part.
We have 3 roles already established, and we dont need new jobs/classes to have a 4th or more new roles.

"Jobs/Classes" usually seem to be a means in which to have both limitations/balance, while also having flavor in play style, lore, and aesthetics.
Otherwise we dont need "jobs", we can just have 3 roles, and thats you're only options of choice.

I for one cant stand cast bars.
I find armor and great swords aesthetically pleasing, and excite me to collect them.
I find off the GCD attacks fun to weave between my attacks.
I like resource management, rather than "use the highest dmg attack/ability always, like with most DPS.
I love being defensive, and using defensive cool downs rather often.
I like abilities that proc.
I love healing other people.

All but one of those fits DRK. With PLD coming in a close 2nd (mainly from changes made in 3.0, as it didnt have as many of these then)

So before DRK, I played PLD, but it wasnt really THAT fun, just mildly fun, but now almost every aspect of DRK makes me want to keep playing, even when i clear the hardest content.
There is validity in wanting unique roles, and there is validity in wanting some new flavors of the same roles.

[Deedsie]

Samurai: Tank
Red Mage: Healer
Dancer: Support Melee

Now we'll have

4 Tanks (PLD/WAR/DRK/SAM)
4 Healers (WHM/SCH/AST/RDM)
2 Melees (MNK/DRG)
2 Casters (BLM/SMN)
2 Support Melee (NIN/DNC)
2 Support Range (BRD/MCH)

Flip Dancer and Red Mage around on that and I can have agreement. A focus on Red Mage to be healing when white magic has only been 1/3 of its capabilities would be an insult to the job. Dancer on the other hand is a more viable candidate to have offense and support/healing "stances" or modes to work from while not deviating from the nature of the job concept.