There Is No Dancer (yet)

[ADVSS]

Reading that, I had shivers imagining Advent Children only depicting combat moves included in the original FF VII...
Thank god SE knows how to pump they CGI up to eleven

LOL that wouldve been so terrible, lol cloud just staring at sephirot waiting for his turn to hit back

[silentwindfr]

https://youtu.be/IT12DW2Fm9M?t=67

Is this dancer as well?

*sighs* tiring, it's the monk of FF4, who is more chinese martial art, what we have in FF14 is totally different, because if you want to play at this game i will too, check every character being monk in ff series, each have different style, some are even more boxer than monk.
use the CGI from another game for justify your point is kinda...

about the possibility to add a different animation for the whole skillset based on the fist stance of the monk, unlikely, is like create a new set of animation for a weapon. and yoshida have said it, it will never happend, they prefer invest time into make a new jobs using this animation than doing this for only one jobs. because don't forget that not only the monk do have different stance. then if they do this for the monk, they need to do it for every skill. plus each skill have a reason behind them name and animation. chaning the animation is not different than change the skill by itself.

in this trailer we do have 2 fighter, yes, 2 martial artist in a sort.... but not two monk, member of the fist of Raghr. (what the monk of FF14 are!) and that the whole point of this, no other school exist in ala miggho, only the fist of Raghr that did split into 2 school later, but still shared the same skill, the approach did change in the way to open the chakra and such.

here we have 2 fighter one direct, strong and sturdy, mostly a karaté fighter (like our monk) and the other is clearly a kung fu fighter, agile, gracefull and precise. they are like fire and water, and i use this image for a reason, her movement are flowing smooth and chaining more than the one of the WoL. what make sense based on the style both use.

here the point that a loooooot of you seems to forget.
FF14 Monk have a personality and it way to fight, it's not FF1-13 it's FF14! whatever you say it will not change.

i wish you will not forget to take in account every element instead to stay focus on point that are....irevelant.

ADVSS i'm partially ok with the fact you say that it's a dbz-like action, and it's what it's shown passed the time of the double charge. passed this point they are exchange blow without really skill. the last part of the fight is irrevelant because well.... we can't burn our chakra like this in the game haha but it look cool in the CGI. however all the first part is quite interesting and tell us a lot about the personality of the two fighter. them fighting style and even the forte and weakness.

and that where the red lady fail to be a monk, all she do is totally the inverse of what the monk is IN FF14. it's why this fight look soo breathtaking, both are like oposite clashing.

i can't decently say it's dancer at more of 65% but i can say without any doubt, she is not a monk of FF14, she is not part of the fist of Raghr! and that the whole point of this debate.

ps: *sighs* a good monk can go below 1.7 gcd, if you chain the out gcd skill, the gameplay is quite fast

pss: i didn't answer to Reynhart because your point are ridiculous, only the kick was the most funny, 95% of the skill of the monk are punch, the monk have 1 kick attack dragon tackle! all the rest are punching strike! featherfoot and fist of wind will probabbly be revamped or take off for more usefull skill, plus... the animation don't match up, go ingame check for god sake... that terrible how people come here talk about the monk and don't even check up.

only for featherfoot: she turn on herself while jumping on one feet, monk jump from feet to feet without turn on himself.
plus, why launch a buff that increase evasion just before charge?


finally for close this debate with Reynhart, i'm glad people want to ask for more for the monk, however, it will be nice to accept when other point stuff that don't go in your way. everything i have said was right, based on fact

by the way the event of the 2nd anniversary:


what amusing since they had already start work on samurai enough for soken to make music for it. before they did swicth to dark knight because more aligned with ishgard design and because yoshida was scared that it was too much asiatic job too fast.



a picture taken while the fanfest 2014 showing the computer of soken.

anyway.... let's close this there...

[ADVSS]

there are two points to your "kick" I just want to mention. First we are getting new skills, abilities we havent seen yet- pruning of skills and more useful skills has already been mentioned.
Jobs having more identity ie kick is a well known monk class skill from many final fantasies,


were gonna get some new skills we havent seen, were gonna get more identity and thematic feel in jobs.Monks kicking more often when the iconic ability was kick makes this seem a lot more feasable as an expose of future mnk vs present mnk?

just wanted to throw those out there

[Lambdafish]

*sighs* tiring, it's the monk of FF4, who is more chinese martial art, what we have in FF14 is totally different

I know that's the MNK from FFIV, a MNK moving very similarly to the MNK woman in the trailer. Yes the fighting style is a little bit different from the WoL but she does literally use some of the MNK moves, even emulating some of the same moves as the WoL (which is who the male was confirmed to be). People have seen featherfoot, snap punch, and I believe dragon kick performed by her, and at the end she definately uses the same chakra move as the WoL (albeit red, probably for stylistic reasons), if she is a DNC then the WoL also must be a DNC.

Some points to take from the trailer:

- The movement performed by her is a chinese martial arts style, not a dance. This is similar to Yangs (hes a MNK) movement in the FFIV trailer linked.

- The trailer is not indicative of moveset, and does not reflect the ingame fighting style of the character, as demonstrated by DRGs in the heavensward trailer.

- New unseen skills to come in 4.0, perhaps more akin to this chinese fighting style.

- Other speculation points to this person being Yda, Yda is a PGL, and Dancer will not branch off of PGL, the dev team are slowely doing away with classes and this would be an odd backwards step, MNK does branch off PGL though.

- Stormblood is to MNK what Heavensward was to DRG, given the information provided, and the fact that MNK will be tied to the story heavily (Yda and Widargelt alone point to this fact, as well as the Fist of Rhalgr), this woman is very likely following that same trend.

- The announcement schedule does not add up (this one is less evidence, more assumption). The likelyhood is that we will get 2 jobs this expansion, and if this is the case then we will get an announcement of one in tokyo, one in germany, and we already know that the one announced at tokyo will be RDM (because scarlet witch). What this means is that if it really is dancer, then we will be waiting until Germany to find that out, and it seems strange for them to give this big tease and then make us wait all that time, why did they not tease RDM in the trailer? unless the better theory is that they are not teasing a job at all.


If this is dancer then wow, it's a very MNK-esque dancer.

[Rawrz]

Even if she exhibits skills uknown to the current monk skillset, the cap will be raised to 70 and new skills could be on their way. I'm gonna say it was cinematic as well.

[Kikoten]

Towards the end of the Live Q&A, someone did get up to ask Yoshi-P something about her. Whether it was her identity or her class or what, only he knows. As well I can't say whether he stopped himself and passed the mic along realizing the question would certainly be a wasted effort, or if the staff member managing the mic realized what he was starting to ask, stopped him, and then gave it to someone else.

I was listening in on that as I was running PotD, so my focus wasn't all there, but someone toward the end got the mic, and he said something along the lines of, "That lady in red you showed in the trailer, she uses a ribbon, and I just wanted--" and that's when you hear his friends (?) raising their voices, saying, "No, no, no!" So he comes up with a different question, about housing, I think. The guy with the beard up on stage, the one who held the bag of written questions (I forgot his name) made a comment about the guy suddenly getting cut off, but I don't remember what he said.

[Berethos]

I was listening in on that as I was running PotD, so my focus wasn't all there, but someone toward the end got the mic, and he said something along the lines of, "That lady in red you showed in the trailer, she uses a ribbon, and I just wanted--" and that's when you hear his friends (?) raising their voices, saying, "No, no, no!" So he comes up with a different question, about housing, I think. The guy with the beard up on stage, the one who held the bag of written questions (I forgot his name) made a comment about the guy suddenly getting cut off, but I don't remember what he said.

He actually says "she uses ribbons to attack...yeah, you can skip me."

You then hear people going "Me, me, me" because they want to get picked instead, and the person they pick that has the housing question has a different voice.

[Dualgunner]

He actually says "she uses ribbons to attack...yeah, you can skip me."

You then hear people going "Me, me, me" because they want to get picked instead, and the person they pick that has the housing question has a different voice.

I don't think the guy even heard "She uses ribbons to attack" cuz he was confused af when the guy gave up his question XD

[TaranTatsuuchi]

...
the BRD did a shield unaivalable to us,
...

Well, at the time that cutscene was made, Bard cross classed conjurer.

That was protect being used.

[Reynhart]

Well, at the time that cutscene was made, Bard cross classed conjurer.

Sorry, not an acceptable answer apparently...
If it's in a cutscene, it has to be in the game exactly the same...and protect didn't have the exact same animation

pss: i didn't answer to Reynhart because your point are ridiculous, only the kick was the most funny, 95% of the skill of the monk are punch, the monk have 1 kick attack dragon tackle! all the rest are punching strike!

Just one ? Ok, so now you don't even know how to count, great...

plus, why launch a buff that increase evasion just before charge?

I don't know, maybe because it will be included in the revamped abilities so that it will be useful for a pure DPS...maybe you need to see the big picture...

everything i have said was right, based on fact

Again, no fact where the answer can only be Dancer. It's called speculations.