There Is No Dancer (yet)

[Lyshell]

Lol this argument is like the WOD argument. So many people where %100 positive that the WOD would not be actual characters, because they refused to have an open mind or speculate the possibilities that they were more than just cinematic stand ins. Those closed minded people were proven wrong. Let people have fun and speculate. That's the fun of not knowing.

Right? Right now is the fun time and excitement of the numerous possibilities we can have and people just want to crush peoples dreams for really no reason at all other than to be contrarian. Let our imaginations run wild and enjoy the anticipation and hype! It doesn't come around often. :P

[Dorander]

Right? Right now is the fun time and excitement of the numerous possibilities we can have and people just want to crush peoples dreams for really no reason at all other than to be contrarian. Let our imaginations run wild and enjoy the anticipation and hype! It doesn't come around often. :P

Speculation is great! Have fun! Just keep it within the realm of possibilities. Dancer may just be a job we get. If so, awesome! I welcome it. However, I also know how this community can be. They'll run with the wildest theory and when their little bubble get's burst by the reality of the situation, 1000 threads will pop up with "I'm disappointed with ____________, How dare S.E turn their backs on their greatest fans/supporters, (insert speculated job here) was confirmed! Why are they backtracking now!" doom and gloom, over and over and over.

So most of us, are trying to keep the speculation within the realm of possibility by presenting fact.

[Kaurie]

Speculation is great! Have fun! Just keep it within the realm of possibilities. Dancer may just be a job we get. If so, awesome! I welcome it. However, I also know how this community can be. They'll run with the wildest theory and when their little bubble get's burst by the reality of the situation, 1000 threads will pop up with "I'm disappointed with ____________, How dare S.E turn their backs on their greatest fans/supporters, (insert speculated job here) was confirmed! Why are they backtracking now!" and and gloom over and over and over.

So most of us, are trying to keep the speculation within the realm of possibility by presenting fact.

Have seen people make this claim a few times, but I've never seen it. Do you have any examples? I am not trying to argue, I am legit curious about what examples there are.

[Dorander]

Have seen people make this claim a few times, but I've never seen it. Do you have any examples? I am not trying to argue, I am legit curious about what examples there are.

The most recent example I can give is with Palace of the Dead. So much hype when it was announced. Then when it was released, thread after thread of: "I'm disappointed in it.." "Not what I wanted it to be.." "To much RNG.." "It's so bad I was hoping this would give me a reason to keep my sub.."

I honestly see the same thing happening here. People flaming the forums about "Dancer was confirmed! Why didn't we get it? That girl was obviously a dancer! Screw S.E. I quit!" ect ect ect..

[Kaurie]

The most recent example I can give is with Palace of the Dead. So much hype when it was announced. Then when it was released, thread after thread of: "I'm disappointed in it.." "Not what I wanted it to be.." "To much RNG.." "It's so bad I was hoping this would give me a reason to keep my sub.."

I honestly see the same thing happening here. People flaming the forums about "Dancer was confirmed! Why didn't we get it? That girl was obviously a dancer! Screw S.E. I quit!" ect ect ect..

People listing their disappointment in released content is not the same thing as making wild claims that the Development team promised something and did not deliver. I did not see anyone suggest in the PotD complaint threads (which are all very valid criticisms) make such a claim.

[Dorander]

People listing their disappointment in released content is not the same thing as making wild claims that the Development team promised something and did not deliver. I did not see anyone suggest in the PotD complaint threads (which are all very valid criticisms) make such a claim.

Ok, another example: Housing. Dev team said personal housing would be affordable. It wasn't and people raged. The Dev team has said egi glamours since 3.3, now they are claiming 3.5. The flames of that flair up every so often. The Dev team said something about FC primals, that went down the drain. People raged. need more?

[Kaurie]

Ok, another example: Housing. Dev team said personal housing would be affordable. It wasn't and people raged. The Dev team has said egi glamours since 3.3, now they are claiming 3.5. The flames of that flair up every so often. The Dev team said something about FC primals, that went down the drain. People raged. need more?

Um now you are completely changing the argument.

First you said that people will assume things and then assume that the Dev promised them even though they didn't, and then rage when those promises aren't kept. Your example was of people doing something completely different. Now your second set of examples is of the devs actually breaking their promises?

[Dement]

Right? Right now is the fun time and excitement of the numerous possibilities we can have and people just want to crush peoples dreams for really no reason at all other than to be contrarian. Let our imaginations run wild and enjoy the anticipation and hype! It doesn't come around often. :P

It's all fun and games right up until they announce the new jobs and it doesn't include Dancer, then everyone grabs their pitch forks and torches because Dancer was already confirmed by the woman in red doing monk attacks.

Personally, I think Dancer has a high probability of being one of the jobs unless they only implement two, in which case it'll undoubtedly be Red Mage and Samurai (based off of 2015 Rising Event). I just don't think the trailer is anyway related to Dancer as, other than her outfit, all of her moves are identifiable monk moves.

[Balipu]

Right? Right now is the fun time and excitement of the numerous possibilities we can have and people just want to crush peoples dreams for really no reason at all other than to be contrarian. Let our imaginations run wild and enjoy the anticipation and hype! It doesn't come around often. :P

Or the small fact that there is really no compelling evidence to the Dancer theory. We totally might get a dancer. It has been requested since pretty much 1.0 so it will come sooner than later. But the red woman is a monk. Every single piece of legit evidence points to her being a monk.

[Kaurie]

Or the small fact that there is really no compelling evidence to the Dancer theory. We totally might get a dancer. It has been requested since pretty much 1.0 so it will come sooner than later. But the red woman is a monk. Every single piece of legit evidence points to her being a monk.

Just to be contrarian? More like they wanna point out that there's no legit evidence in favor for the DNC theory other than wild speculation. It's not vindictive to try to temper ones expectations with reality.

I feel this is an exaggeration. There is ample evidence to suggest a Dancer, while not enough to confirm it. It's a perfect amount to create speculation. See my post on page 10 of this thread, http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...8yet%29/page10

Also, note that the evidence points toward her being a Pugilist, not a Monk.

While I have my doubts about it being dancer, it has to be pointed out that the animations she used in the trailer were exclusively pugilist abilities(demolish, snap punch, featherfoot, and fist of wind), so they could go the silly split soulstone route again.