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    Israacf's Avatar
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    Why is everyone ignoring the fact that she does like 3 slashes in the trailer, and then in the official art she has a hidden dagger or whatever that is in her right arm? Even in the stormblood logo.

    I honestly believe it's a new job, maybe not a dancer, but it's not a Monk either.
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    The thing that triggered me was the sudden cut-away from the weapon the woman was using that was not her fists, but the cloth with a blade on it that was used as a sort of mid-range weapon.

    Weapons are the strongest indicators of new jobs, and if they were trying to keep Dancer under wraps, yet tease it slightly, having only brief instances of the use of the weapons would be the best theoretical method.

    So yes, unconfirmed Rumor, but it does fit. Dancers often have moves resembling flowing martial arts, and historically FF dancers did use cloth as weapons (as well as daggers, swords, etc in more muti-faceted games, but cloth was often their most unique weapon) so seeing a glance of a cloth being a weapon is a heavy hint to us FF historians.

    Looking forward to confirmation or debunking in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
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    well during the *please look forward to it* someone asked about the character using ribbons and was cut off and they took another question instead. was kind of awkward to watch really XD

    could mean something might not! who knows!
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    Reference of the dagger/sword she has attached to her right arm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keramory View Post
    As a martial artist I'm pleasantly surprised they chose Chinese movements to represent monk. They have in the past don't get me wrong but it was much more visual in the trailer. Loved it.

    As for the dancer debate...

    I want dancer. I do. I just dont want that monk rip off class if thats now dancer ... which it's not...it's monk.
    When you think of monks with ancient techniques, you think of Shaolin monks which is chinese
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie View Post
    When you think of monks with ancient techniques, you think of Shaolin monks which is Chinese
    Well yes, you and I may think that, which seems obvious. However China and Japan haven't exactly gotten along in the past...and this is especially true in the martial arts world. Which is why im pleasantly surprised to see Chinese aspects in there. Yes they belong there for what it was showing, but some developers might have (and have in the past) changed it to seem more Japanese. Yes were in a new era and the hate is slowly fading, but I love to see Chinese aspects in my manga/anime/video games because of the past.

    As for the dancing combat argument, many Chinese forms/styles had a fluid like movement similar to dancing and what we saw in the trailer. Again, maybe it is a dancer...but I HOPE it isn't, because of the monk clone aspect.

    Maybe they did this on purpose for a debate. I doubt it but still :P
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    As this is the teaser to a larger trailer being released later, I'd like to imagine that almost directly after the cutoff point for the teaser, the crimson lady stops using monk moves and starts using dancer moves entirely to defeat her WoL friend, or I suppose to cheat at their little game. So as far as wild speculations go, that's what I think will be the case when the longer version is released. I guess I will have to eat my darksteel foil hat if I turn out to be wrong.

    Honestly, speculation and excitement is great, especially from a business standpoint. It can also be good for the conmunity, if we follow some simple guidelines first! Please don't personally attack one another and also please don't state as fact what we can't for sure rule out as an opinion.

    Come on, people! It's a happy time! A new expansion, new information, new stuff to hypothesize over! Dig in!
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    I think it might be dancer, and the reason to why it's so similar to monk and at the same time it isn't, it's because in this game dancer won't be a "female-only" job anymore, like on other FF titles. They need to create something that doesn't look weird or stupid on the opposite gender of the same job, but at the same time give it an identity. I have no idea of how a Dancer job would look like on male characters since it's something completely new to the FF fanchise, and I really hope SE doesn't make dancer the first gender-locked job of the game. Maybe in the full trailer we'll see more fancy dancey moves, and it's also worth mentioning that the hand she's using for punches in the trailer is not the same with the blade hidden, so there's also the possibility that yes, she's being a monk, but in the moment she "switches" styles to use her blade for fighting she goes into dancer job. If it's really Yda it might be a nice way to show her transition since she's been a monk ever since, but we know nothing about her, so maybe her "monk" fighting style is just something she had to develop herself to cover up the dancer moves in combat to preserve her identity.

    Y'shtola is not a normal conjurer, Alphinaud is not a normal arcanist and don't even get me started on Alisaie. If Alisaie really is a Red Mage I doubt we will learn how to use the job through Arcanist grimoires. SE likes to give different abilities to major NPCs to create a sense of uniqueness, so the fact that "Yda" might be using her dancer moveset on a certain way doesn't translate into "the warrior of light will use the moveset on the same way". I think the whole idea of the Warrior of Light and jobs is to explain how we can achieve what no other NPCs can. And the fact that my White Mage is different than Y'shtola only means we have a certain uniqueness capable of changing the way out aether manifests itself.

    In the end it might not be dancer on the trailer, or it might be a transitioning between two jobs, or even something else, but the fact they "never did it before on trailers" doesn't mean there's no room for doing it for the first time. Not showing a new job on a trailer or hinting/teasing it is not a rule. This is something we as the community started to believe just because they didn't. And the reason to why they didn't isn't because they can't, it's because they didn't wanted to. But time goes by, things change, and just like every other trailer and game in the market not every trailer or teaser will follow the same concept for years and years.
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    Last edited by DevilsDontFly; 10-16-2016 at 06:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsDontFly View Post
    I have no idea of how a Dancer job would look like on male characters since it's something completely new to the FF fanchise,
    Most of the post is good, but with a small problem here: Dancer's been a reoccuring job, being in V, XI, Tactics, A2, and Dimensions, only being explicitly tied to females in the Tactics games.
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    I don't know why everyone WANTS the lady in red to be a dancer? If THAT'S dancer, it's way too similar to MNK stylistically. Talk about lame.
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