Lore Book Revelations

[Ignnis]

What's the name for it up there, still can't find it

Go to the games drop down menu and click Final Fantasy XIV, it'll be there

[Powe]

Go to the games drop down menu and click Final Fantasy XIV, it'll be there

Still not there, can you link the products page?

[Powe]

Yea it's up on the EU website but not America, I even copied and pasted the product name from the EU site and searched in the NA site but still nothing

[Khalithar]

Yea it's up on the EU website but not America, I even copied and pasted the product name from the EU site and searched in the NA site but still nothing

Give it a bit. It's still early in the NA.

[Powe]

Give it a bit. It's still early in the NA.

Well a guy said it was up so eh, though the 150 dollar Odin emote that comes with a free statue was updated.

[CyrilLucifer]

Ah, super excited about the Igeyorhm information.

I almost feel like that's something that should have been in-game in some way? She got next to nothing before she was unceremoniously thrown away.

[BristolRuss]

Just ordered my lore book. Excited!

[Hinoto-no-Ryuji]

I'm still reading through mine - only about 100 pages in - and the book itself is kind of...interesting. Gorgeous and filled with fascinating information, to be sure, but it sometimes comes across as having been written by multiple (fictional) authors, as what they know and don't know seems kind of arbitrary and changes from chapter to chapter - for instance, as we all know, the book confirms Nael to have actually been his sister, and yet refers to Nael via male pronouns throughout the portion that summarizes 1.0's story, making no mention of Eula.

It's not really throwing off my enjoyment of it at all, so it's sort of nitpicky, and I can't wait to learn a bit more about..well, everything. A couple things of note so far:

-Ozma is, astonishingly, not mentioned anywhere. The section on the War of the Magi is quite lengthy, but aside from an appearance in an illustration of the Pyramid, everyone's favorite superboss is completely MIA. This seems odd, considering it swallowed a huge chunk of Nym; you'd think that would at least get a mention, even if Ozma itself was unknown to the author.

-Quite a few interesting tidbits out of the 6th Astral Era timeline, too. So it seems that, while Rabanastre is an Othardian nation, Dalmasca is located in Ilsabard. And speaking of Othard, it seems the Bozja Citadel is located there; is that something we already knew? I feel like it wasn't.

Cool stuff! Regarding Au Ra lore:

I gotta join in on the racial lore requests: I've theorized for a while about Au Ra being related to demons in some way or another, is there anything in the lore book about their physiology that may hint at this? I've heard about their horns and tails, but what else is there?

They're presented in the same way as anything else - as a Race of Man that just happens to have horns and scales. There are no implications towards them being related to "demons" in any way.

So the two clans get along? That's.... interesting.

Well, it's part of their creation myth, not a statement on their current relations. While they're not exactly at each others' throats in modern times, I think it's a bit of a stretch to say they get along; between the Xaela being suspicious towards any outsiders and the fact that they live in such different pats of Othard, they probably actually see very little of one another.

On to City-State lore now!

(also, Moose! You were at FanFest! I wanted you to sign my Encyclopedia, and then realized I had no way of identifying you even if we did cross paths. Probably should've thought of that first...)

[Rahela]

I'm not sure if it should go in here or the bug report thread, but Leveva's entire profile is outright contradictory. First off, Encyclopedia Eorzea says 'her mother died in childbirth, and her father a scant few years later.' Except Leveva's father Rufin was murdered in Ishgard either right before or after her birth, twenty years ago, which contradicts her age being given as 16. And for that matter, a rather glaring oversight is that Leveva's mother is still alive! She tried to stop her daughter from going to Eorzea and was used as one of Sevestre's bargaining chips in the level 58 quest.

I don't know how this kind of huge mistake happened, but it's only the first major one I've managed to find, and I'm sure there's more.

[StarDrake]

I gotta join in on the racial lore requests: I've theorized for a while about Au Ra being related to demons in some way or another, is there anything in the lore book about their physiology that may hint at this? I've heard about their horns and tails, but what else is there?

If anything, the absolute opposite is true.

Careful reading of certain bits of the Allagan lore, especially the bits concerning Meracydia, stop exactly short of confirming the Au Ra are related to dragons. Two rather prominent dragons, at that.

But no, there is absolutely no discussion of "demons" in relation to the Au Ra.

A couple things of note so far:

-Ozma is, astonishingly, not mentioned anywhere. The section on the War of the Magi is quite lengthy, but aside from an appearance in an illustration of the Pyramid, everyone's favorite superboss is completely MIA. This seems odd, considering it swallowed a huge chunk of Nym; you'd think that would at least get a mention, even if Ozma itself was unknown to the author.

Yeah, the lack of Ozma was a little surprising. It still seems like Ozma was used as a knockout blow against Nym (and maybe it just isn't widely recorded even now, as we're the only ones who saw inside of it), but there's no sure way of knowing. Curiously, none of the three major cities were completely wiped out before the flood came and did form Grand Companies out of the battered remains of their militaries.

By the way, the book essentially confirms that the main bulk of the War of the Magi was between Mhach and Amdapor - with satellite states, cities and townships being brought in on one side or the other. The Nymians were the main "neutral" power that tried to fight them both off, with some but not total success (until they proved to be too annoying for Mhach to just leave alone...)

Also, Dunesfolk are uniformly the descendants of Mhachi Lalafell. While I figured they were related, I hadn't expected it to be so clearly sweeping, but the book makes no bones about it.

This is all kind of making me want to go lalafell again - my main job is now confirmed to have started with the Plainsfolk (and I was sort of right about the Nymians integrating into Limsa and influencing it - you just need to add a step of "returned to the islands for a few centuries" in between the Sixth Umbral and the founding of Limsa. And it is a bit unclear just how "Nymian" they still were after all that time, though I doubt a Lalafell being the founder of the Arcanist's Guild and of Mealvaan's Gate is just coincidence...) And then of course I also BLM a whole bunch, and the black mages were explicitly founded by the ancestors of the Dunesfolk...

-Quite a few interesting tidbits out of the 6th Astral Era timeline, too. So it seems that, while Rabanastre is an Othardian nation, Dalmasca is located in Ilsabard. And speaking of Othard, it seems the Bozja Citadel is located there; is that something we already knew? I feel like it wasn't.

? I need to check again, but I distinctly remember "Doma and Dalmasca" being listed as Othardian nations, Dalmasca even being inferred as a neighbor to Doma. I would imagine Rabanastre is just the capital of Dalmasca, same as XII.