Changes to Gear Dying

[Estellios]

Uh... they are separating stats from color. There will be an intermediate step now that will give the bonuses that were previously given by color, so you could, for example, upgrade your Felt Robe into the Magic Attack or MND version and after that dye it to whatever color you like.

If the Blue Cobalt Cuirass in the picture is any indication we will have free reign to use whatever colors we like.

[Atomisk]

As long as my Felt Green Robe still has the attk magik potency on it after patch I am ok with it. If I lose those bonus stats from my dyed gear, I want my materia back SE.

[Skyrant_Kangaroomouse]

Can you make up your mind SE? I swear, sometimes i think they sit around a table and roll dice. The one who wins the dice roll decides what get's implemented and how. Then after it's live and is a disaster, they fix it.

If this continues we will not see 2.0 before 2020.

[WintersMoondancer]

A simple Yes or No answer from the Devs would be nice since it is still unclear.

Question: Will we be able to dye ANY undyed gear to ANY color we want?

Just a straight yes or no please (from the Devs). It will end speculation and possibly kill dreams >.>

[eagleone]

The dyeing fix is good, but the name really needs to change when a synthesis action is performed on an item and the stats change. Please don't call it "Felt Robe (increases Mind)" - just call it "Astute Felt Robe" or something. That way we don't have "Felt Robe (increases Mind) (Green)" - which is a mouthful and confusing if there are only 1 or 2 variants.

If SE were to introduce an augment system where the players could tweak with a whole list of added stats it would be one thing, but if there are a discrete number of recipes creating different items they should have distinct names.

EDIT: also - what if there are 2 different stats? macro /equip body "Felt Robe (increases Mind) (increases Attack Magic Potency) (Green)" anyone?

Spot on! This needs to be considered

[Estellios]

Erm... your "what it should be" is what the 2.0 dyeing sounds like, they just won't be able to do it with how the game handles items currently. And the 1.20 dying system isn't that far off, just missing the "being able to dye already-dyed items". They haven't finalized the naming system of the stat-boosted items so we would probably see them get their own names.

[Felis]

Can you make up your mind SE? I swear, sometimes i think they sit around a table and roll dice. The one who wins the dice roll decides what get's implemented and how. Then after it's live and is a disaster, they fix it.

If this continues we will not see 2.0 before 2020.

They do what we wanted
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ecific-classes.

[ebrhune]

It will be nice having a little variety in gear as opposed to the 2k melees running around with a Cobalt Hauby (Red) all the time. And definitely have an augment prefix to the gear name. That will help make it easier for macro sets.

[Calandra]

A Word of Caution

Due to the game's data structure, it is not possible at present to dye an item more than once. After Version 2.0, however, players will be able to dye an item multiple times.

This is confusing. It's just a recipe. Just add the recipes of 'Colored item + dye => New Colored item'. Yes, it makes the recipe list bloat a bit, but not much compared to what we already have.

[Nuru]

I dont think they will have all of the colors for the dyes quite yet, until they introduce the Color ID system. If that system was already finished, then dying it a different color after it has been dyed would not be a problem, but for now, each different stat + different color = multiple items. So instead of

Felt Robe
Felt Robe Green
Felt Robe Red

We have:

Felt Robe
Felt Robe (Magic Potency)
Felt Robe (Mind)

Felt Robe (Green)
Felt Robe (Green) (Magic Potency)
Felt Robe (Green) (Mind)

Felt Robe (Red)
Felt Robe (Red) (Magic Potency)
Felt Robe (Red) (Mind)

etc.
All of these are separate items, which would cause a clutter in memory usage if they continue to do this. Now if they waited until the color ID system to be done, we could make it plain and simple:

Felt Robe (Color ID)
Felt Robe (Magic Potency) (Color ID)
Felt Robe (Mind) (Color ID)

With the Color ID System, less memory would be used since the Felt Robe wouldn't be considered as a separate item for every single color, which was previously announced to be around 32 colors. :O