Red Mage hinted at

[Ilenya]

Nah, I wouldn't use an off healer, I'd just use another dps. RDM needs something unique, not to be a carbon copy.

No, no, I meant in general for a new healer. It's why Dancer has so much traction as a healer job in the first place.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

No, no, I meant in general for a new healer. It's why Dancer has so much traction as a healer job in the first place.

Yes, Dancer fits as a healer job, not RDM. If they released two healer jobs at once ghose queues would be flooded. Regardless, healer doesn't suit RDM because they've always had elements of tankyness, melee, defensive, support, and aggressive magic. Healer would at best only fit two of those five skillsets, especially with the prevalent dps meta. There's also already a support focused healer in AST.

[Ilenya]

Yes, Dancer fits as a healer job, not RDM. If they released two healer jobs at once ghose queues would be flooded. Regardless, healer doesn't suit RDM because they've always had elements of tankyness, melee, defensive, support, and aggressive magic. Healer would at best only fit two of those five skillsets, especially with the prevalent dps meta. There's also already a support focused healer in AST.

I'm not saying RDM should be a healer. I'd imagine it being more of a support DPS like BRD/MCH than a pure damage caster like BLM/SMN.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Fair enough. I personally see rdm as being a tank. THAT'S ALL I NEED TO BE HAPPY.

[Deedsie]

I just don't want Red Mage to be in the healer slot. I'd prefer it as a damage dealer, but can live with it as a tank. I don't want it to be healer except maybe for itself.

[ErikMynhier]

Not a popular opinion but still my opinion. Red Mage would make a fun tank, just saying. Let the dps have Samurai or whatever.

[Xyrn86]

Will rdm be dps or healer that is the question.

DPS, anything else is just wrong...

[Xikeroth]

A Red Mage Healer isn't a Red Mage, It's a Pink mage and spits on everything Red Mage has been since day 1.

Edit: Best way they could do RDM is to make it a Hybrid, locking you to a specific role before entering content so that way it wouldn't be OP and deal great DPS, and healing (RDM is the only mage in FF that has been able to wear dragoon level armor as long as it's been around. They won't give that degree of gear to a healer or caster.)

[MomomiMomi]

A Red Mage Healer isn't a Red Mage, It's a Pink mage and spits on everything Red Mage has been since day 1.

It's more RDM than a tank would be. Healer roles have offensive spells, too. Just slap a sword in its hand and there it is, RDM.

[Xikeroth]

It's more RDM than a tank would be. Healer roles have offensive spells, too. Just slap a sword in its hand and there it is, RDM.

Problem with that is very simple, the majority of Red Mage fans do not want to be a healer only. (In fact thats why a lot of people I knew in ffxi quit rdm or quit ffxi) Which is why I think making it a DPS with the ability to throw a support cure would be more accurate since RDM was never intended to be able to replace a healer in any way shape or form. Not to mention no one would complain in that case if the red mage was too focused on DPS.

RDM is supposed to be a hybrid, while being a jack of all trades just doesn't work in the style of mmo we're in. Giving it different stances that can not be changed in combat or in duty that change the abilities of the player to be more dps or healing focused wouldn't harm it at all and you'd be pleasing two groups of people.