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    AlexionSkylark's Avatar
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    Alexion Skylark
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Non-Swashbuckler RDM?
    don't you even joke about that
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    Arasiel's Avatar
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    Torian Whyte
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Will rdm be dps or healer that is the question.
    Million Til question
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    Deedlit Blanchimont
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    I just don't want Red Mage to be in the healer slot. I'd prefer it as a damage dealer, but can live with it as a tank. I don't want it to be healer except maybe for itself.
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Deedsie View Post
    I just don't want Red Mage to be in the healer slot. I'd prefer it as a damage dealer, but can live with it as a tank. I don't want it to be healer except maybe for itself.
    I'm on a similar boat, except without the tank part. RDM main tanking in FFXI jokes aside, tanking doesn't suit the aesthetic of the job.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fantasy9 View Post
    What I am curious about is--How would RDM work in this MMO? Yoshi-P has stated a lot in the past that he will not be putting hybrids in the game but RDM is by definition a hybrid but can't use top tier heals or attack magic. He said this when BRD was changed to a DPS instead of a Buffer with some DPS.
    This would be one approach.

    The silver lining in all of this is that I can finally get rid of the quote in my sig if they get the job right.
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    Last edited by Duelle; 10-15-2016 at 01:47 PM.
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Erik Mynhier
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    Not a popular opinion but still my opinion. Red Mage would make a fun tank, just saying. Let the dps have Samurai or whatever.
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    Satheena Mistalle
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    Paladin Lv 70
    A Red Mage Healer isn't a Red Mage, It's a Pink mage and spits on everything Red Mage has been since day 1.

    Edit: Best way they could do RDM is to make it a Hybrid, locking you to a specific role before entering content so that way it wouldn't be OP and deal great DPS, and healing (RDM is the only mage in FF that has been able to wear dragoon level armor as long as it's been around. They won't give that degree of gear to a healer or caster.)
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    Last edited by Xikeroth; 10-15-2016 at 09:02 AM.

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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xikeroth View Post
    A Red Mage Healer isn't a Red Mage, It's a Pink mage and spits on everything Red Mage has been since day 1.
    It's more RDM than a tank would be. Healer roles have offensive spells, too. Just slap a sword in its hand and there it is, RDM.
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    Satheena Mistalle
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    It's more RDM than a tank would be. Healer roles have offensive spells, too. Just slap a sword in its hand and there it is, RDM.
    Problem with that is very simple, the majority of Red Mage fans do not want to be a healer only. (In fact thats why a lot of people I knew in ffxi quit rdm or quit ffxi) Which is why I think making it a DPS with the ability to throw a support cure would be more accurate since RDM was never intended to be able to replace a healer in any way shape or form. Not to mention no one would complain in that case if the red mage was too focused on DPS.

    RDM is supposed to be a hybrid, while being a jack of all trades just doesn't work in the style of mmo we're in. Giving it different stances that can not be changed in combat or in duty that change the abilities of the player to be more dps or healing focused wouldn't harm it at all and you'd be pleasing two groups of people.
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    Zenmetsu Shogun
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 90
    But will it have refresh?
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    Writ Mo'gi
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    Lamia
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    Dancer Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Zensho View Post
    But will it have refresh?
    I imagine if it did they could balance it by making it the MP version of Goad D:
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