Thread: Everything to know about 4.0 from the Fan Fest

Its not like 72 hour stuff hasn't been done before in this game. S ranks and Odin/Behemoth have a cd around that time if I'm not mistaken.

Originally Posted by KitingGenbu

Its not like 72 hour stuff hasn't been done before in this game. S ranks and Odin/Behemoth have a cd around that time if I'm not mistaken.

I've only ever gotten to do Odin 4 times in 3 years. Mainly because nobody ever shouts it's up, or not enough are there to kill him. My concern is tying a Relic step to that formula.

I keep seeing people saying this zone is akin to something from FFXI. I never played XI, were relics able to be completed without having to do this stuff?

Relics used to be pure masochism to get, but no, NM camping with ludicrous spawn times, abysmal drop rates, and competition between multiple alliances and RMT bots to get claim were not part of it.

Originally Posted by Laerad3993

I keep seeing people saying this zone is akin to something from FFXI. I never played XI, were relics able to be completed without having to do this stuff?

Relics were a major pain in the ass. You went into zones called Dynamis which were alternate reality replicas of other zones, including the starter cities, but they took place in a reality where the evil forces had won the Great War. The zones were filled with beastmen. They were incredibly strong and most linkshells took a full alliance or more of 18 people in to topple the zone. It was instanced and there were various NMs which you could kill that would drop relic armor. Everything would also drop beastmen currency in values of 1 or rarely 100 and you needed an absolute metric ton of beastmen currency to build a relic. I know the last step alone required 10,000 or so and there were 4-5 steps if I remember right. You also had to get certain drops from high level spawned monsters in certain Dynamis zones. Most linkshells never built even 1 relic for anyone, while there are others which managed to build several for different people.

The payoff of all this, though, was that while a relic took literal years to acquire, they were the top of the top weapons for the better part of a decade (or longer if you continued to upgrade them). They radically changed the capabilities of some classes (for example Dark Knight was a heavy DPS with paper thin defense. Relic DRKs would tank high end encounters) and you would easily use a relic for several years without having to worry about any other weapons.

Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

Not spawn times, but Abyssea did require the slaying of hundreds of NMs to get your Empyrean weapon.

Mythic also required you kill HNMs. Those were on a long spawn timer.

I was addressing relics specifically. Mythic and Empyrean weapons are undoubtedly tougher to get.

Originally Posted by Naunet

Disappointing that they don't care about Western audiences enough to give us even one non-cute race.

Oh and dropping PS3 support, as that means they won't have the stupid "not enough memory" excuse to fall back on.

Indeed, so because one audience doesn't care much no audience should get them? But it's not surprising really, they barely even listen to other audiences anyway; usually only bringing them up when they have something to sell them, or when to blame for certain stuff the listened to audience complains about.

Don't worry, a new limitation, restriction, issue, etc. will show up before long.

[as a promise to myself this shall be the only negative post I make today]

Originally Posted by Dement

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Thank you for the info, it made for an interesting read.

I mean I guess I'd be for that if I never had to worry about another weapon again, ever. Just building on the same one, without having to start a brand new one each expansion.

The Dancer in the Stormblood Trailer is Yda.