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  1. #31
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    Aleddra Sunbeam
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon_Sanders View Post
    Don't need to remove that dungeon. Let SE cut down the tomes there, add some 160 gears instead, then it may work.
    (And, to be honest, I don't care running it time and time again.)
    Nerfing the facility would not cause people to stop farming lore. They would farm the next best thing and in the end you solved nothing plus made a mess.

    What i am suggesting is putting facility in no roulette at all. I'm pretty sure that was how it was in 3.0. Also with all the people farming it i don't see how people needing to do it for story would have any trouble getting a group.

    EDIT: I think this problem is real and SE would like to look into it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    You only need 2 lv 60 dungeons to unlock lv 60 roulette. And you can still do it outside of the roulette.

    But because it is in the roulette and a story dungeon, there will be no exceptions and everyone will have the same chance to get it throught the roulette.
    When 3.4 hit i didn't have expert unlocked and 60 roulette was locked because of that. You need all the dungeons to unlock 60 roulette in 3.4.
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    Last edited by Train88; 10-14-2016 at 11:19 AM.

  2. #32
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    Jim Berry
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    Malboro
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    It should be added to the story roulette and taken out of the 60 roulette.
    ARF is not a main scenario for ARR, though.
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  3. #33
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    Zomkei's Avatar
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    Decayed Corpse
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Train88 View Post
    Nerfing the facility would not cause people to stop farming lore. They would farm the next best thing and in the end you solved nothing plus made a mess.

    What i am suggesting is putting facility in no roulette at all. I'm pretty sure that was how it was in 3.0. Also with all the people farming it i don't see how people needing to do it for story would have any trouble getting a group.
    Your OP made it sound like you wanted people to not be able to select if manually, but even so I disagree. The reason they put it in roulette is because people would never queue for it. Sure, right now it's popular, so you get it a lot, however, down the road new people will never get a group because they'll be something else to farm, something more convient. Taking it out of roulette would make queues long now as well. A lot of times the roulette will throw everyone in ARF even if no one is farming it. If they took it out, EU / night time NA players on NA servers (vice versa for EU / JP servers) would never get in.

    I think it should stay as is.
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  4. #34
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Moomba33 View Post
    I don't see why that would matter. Guildhest Roulette has one 8 man and a bunch of 4 mans, Mentor Roulette has everything from 4 mans to 24 mans, and Frontlines Roulette can fluctuate on the number of players involved in a match.
    Is it possible to queue as a party for guildhest and mentor or are they solo queue only? The matching algorithm probably can readily match in solo players into variabled party sized content but could implode and destroy the world if you were to throw a party at a variable sized party roulette. ;-)
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  5. #35
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Train88 View Post
    Also with all the people farming it i don't see how people needing to do it for story would have any trouble getting a group.
    People are farming it excessively now, but player farm patterns can change with little to no notice and removing it from roulette could introduce a window in which newer players would fail to match when queued until devs could then re-add it back in if the ARF farming were to suddenly die off. Given that it's MSQ, any potential downtime from such a change needs to be prevented. It would be a bad idea to remove it from roulette and leave readily entering the dungeon solely to the whim of the playerbase's desire to farm it excessively.
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  6. #36
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    Is it possible to queue as a party for guildhest and mentor or are they solo queue only? The matching algorithm probably can readily match in solo players into variabled party sized content but could implode and destroy the world if you were to throw a party at a variable sized party roulette. ;-)
    Guildhest Roulette allows you to queue as a party. According to the description the only restriction is if you queue as a group of 4 it won't pick the 8 man.
    I've done it as a Healer/DPS duo with a friend to fill out our Guildhest challenge log for squadron recruits.

    Mentor and Frontline are solo queue.
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  7. #37
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moomba33 View Post
    Guildhest Roulette allows you to queue as a party. According to the description the only restriction is if you queue as a group of 4 it won't pick the 8 man.
    I've done it as a Healer/DPS duo with a friend to fill out our Guildhest challenge log for squadron recruits.

    Mentor and Frontline are solo queue.
    Thanks for answering. I've been wondering that about guildhest roulette for a bit as I haven't really touched any. So anyway, something is in place to work with parties then.
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