House limit

[PantslessPrince]

There are pitchforks impaling other threads so I decided to make my own rather than continue to hijack others.
Now, I get appeal of having an FC house and a personal. People come and go in FCs, you may not have access to everything because of your rank, or the garden is for set stuff.
Now what I don\\'t get are the FCs (the ones split into groups but use the same name and tag) that swoop in, buy out wards, and resell for highway robbery.
"But Prince! You can\\'t do that any more or you\\'ll get banned!"
Absolutely false. You can\\'t use PF to do it but you sell from other sites: FB smalls go for 10mil, Reddit it\\'s the highest bidder, and who knows what happens ovet comms.
And then you have the level 1 alts buying the bigger ones and letting them sit empty.
"But Prince! You don\\'t pay their sub! They should be able to buy what they want, it\\'s a free market!"
Very true but the point remains it\\'s a broken system and there\\'s no reason to allow a certain player base when other players can\\'t even get one.

And before anyone starts raging, "you\\'re just salty because you can\\'t get one."

I already have one that I share with two houseless friends, I just hate the current system when now you can buy a house and an apartment. Literally no need.

Since devs occasionally listen to suggestion s do you think there\\'s a snowball\\'s chance in hell to make it one house per character server or is that already out the window?
Or would there be a better alternative?

[MomomiMomi]

I honestly think it's pretty unlikely that they will change their minds on this. Part of the reason is that people can lose their personal houses. With this system, even if they do, they'll still have a home to come back to.

Also, as they add more wards, this is going to add a lot more apartments. We get 180 houses and 540 apartments with every ward they add.

Good, you're not on Balmung. I was about to run for the hills.

[StouterTaru]

Now, I get appeal of having an FC house and a personal.

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Since devs occasionally listen to suggestion s do you think there\\'s a snowball\\'s chance in hell to make it one house per character server or is that already out the window?
Or would there be a better alternative?

What exactly is your proposal?

Should anyone in a FC be unable to buy a personal house, or just the FC leader? If it's anyone, then you destroy the FC system. If it's just the leader, then it's easily bypassed with an alt as the dummy leader of the FC.

Also, per character & per server is redundant, since each character can only exist on one server. If it's one account per server, why does it become OK for one account to hold multiple houses, as long as they are on different servers?

[MistyMew]

Its really time for the team to start being a bit forceful towards SE to ensure more resources are allotted for this game.

I do hope those that have been waiting so long for a home are able to get an apartment without too many problems (even though I realize on the really populated servers that's almost impossible) its sad actually.

I would love to be a fly on the wall when they decide such things, because I cant even fathom how or why they would come to the conclusion that this is a good idea.

Housing availability may not be 100% achievable in this game (mind you ,they really need make it happen one day)

But man oh man, housing in general could be improved to a degree with a few choice ideas. Not any one solution will solve everything but holy moly there are some that would help.

- allow reselling of homes to npc only for 100% purchased price. (don't agree with having to take a loss, stop slapping ppls wrists tyty).

- extreme RANDOM relisting by the game of any home sold to ensure "planned" sells for profit are never achievable.

- (for now only) limit ownership of 1 home OR apt +1 FC leadership/ character (but this should be a priority to eliminate the need for)

- wards for FC only and make personal housing instanced

- vastly increase housing item limit so ppl wont have to buy multiples just for storage of furniture also, develop a new inv design like a storage garage that we can buy (not rent...nor "lose with time") with gil to "store" all the furniture we still cant use because item limit is so incredibly minute O.o <----subtle hint? lol

(I don't mean an actual zone or building for this..just an inv tab added to housing menu)

Some things here would help ease availability...mind you housing in general could use a long list of improvements (on the creative end as well)

[Lulu89]

Also, as they add more wards, this is going to add a lot more apartments. We get 180 houses and 540 apartments with every ward they add.

It's 90 Apartments pre Ward ATM, not 540. 180 if you count both Main/Sub wards.

[MomomiMomi]

It's 90 Apartments pre Ward ATM, not 540. 180 if you count both Main/Sub wards.

There are three housing areas. Every ward they add adds 3 wards.

[OliviaJ]

Please stop suggesting that personal housing be instanced. That's getting as old as hearing people that aren't on the 3 overpopulated servers say "just hop to a lower pop server". It's just as selfish.

Now future housing such as Ishgard could be instanced. My point is that you cannot justify taking away things that players already have to please the few that don't.

[Astral145]

They could put a 36 hour waiting period on the apartments/houses after it was disowned. So in other words no player can buy the vacant apartment/house until 36 hours has elapse or add in a RNG factor that sometime within a 36 hour period the apartment/house will be available no sooner than 5 hours after it was disowned.

This alone would prevent selling because who would camp by a house or an apartment for 36 hours.

[Dustytome]

They could put a 36 hour waiting period on the apartments/houses after it was disowned. So in other words no player can buy the vacant apartment/house until 36 hours has elapse or add in a RNG factor that sometime within a 36 hour period the apartment/house will be available no sooner than 5 hours after it was disowned.

This alone would prevent selling because who would camp by a house or an apartment for 36 hours.

This has been suggested for housing as well. Unfortunately they want to discourage people from flipping property without actually implementing methods to prevent it.

Please stop suggesting that personal housing be instanced. That's getting as old as hearing people that aren't on the 3 overpopulated servers say "just hop to a lower pop server". It's just as selfish.

Now future housing such as Ishgard could be instanced. My point is that you cannot justify taking away things that players already have to please the few that don't.

If doing so could improve the housing system then they should. I like the neighborhoods too, but the current system just isn't working and adding more and more different systems is an issue. I'm not sure how they'd do it, but maybe instanced housing with the ability to plug into an opening in a ward would work (except plugging into a ward would come with more restrictions aka current housing item limits)? As far as justifying taking things away, that's exactly what the auto demolish feature is. They've demonstrated they can and will do so if they feel it appropriate.

[OliviaJ]

I respectfully disagree with you Dustytome. Instancing the housing system would ruin the current neighborhoods. Do that for Ishgard because honestly, if it's instanced then those of us who like wandering through seeing what people have done can never bother stepping into that place. I really can't wrap my head around why someone would want instanced housing, apart from the limitless resource.
I'm not trying to sound selfish. I'm saying that the non-instanced ward system is awesome in it's player customization and feeling when wandering without having to reload every time I want to see someone else's work.
I do agree with the reinstatement of the reclamation timer, although I too think it could be a tad longer or modified in some way.