Meters

[AlexionSkylark]

A 3rd-party client that's well established that it's against the TOS is way different than a tool provided by the game itself. It's all about the policy.

[Zojha]

a counterargument to that would be "Why don't we remove bonuses, as they are a requirement many people like and will kick over"?

Except most people see a bonus and go:
"Yay, free money/tomes!"

To the point people were very eager to carry people through coil during the relic stage to get their hands on the boni. It's only in hard content that it has a negative connotation. Parsing is the opposite - it's almost taken for granted in high performance content, whereas someone parsing Toto-Rak would be frowned upon.

[Dualgunner]

Right, a first party tool is much more easily controlled and gives far more accurate information. Completely different than a third party tool, which is odd that they're disallowed in ToS in the first place.

Except most people see a bonus and go:
"Yay, free money/tomes!"

To the point people were very eager to carry people through coil during the relic stage to get their hands on the boni. It's only in hard content that it has a negative connotation. Parsing is the opposite - it's almost taken for granted in high performance content, whereas someone parsing Toto-Rak would be frowned upon.

Not in cutting edge content where dps matters and people would care anyway they don't.

[Zojha]

Not in cutting edge content where dps matters and people would care anyway they don't.

It's only in hard content that it has a negative connotation. Parsing is the opposite [...]

You could just have written:"I agree."

[Dualgunner]

You could just have written:"I agree."

So could you :P

I get adding the nuance of the reason people like bonuses, but I apologize for not making it obvious in the first place I was talking about tome bonuses in cutting edge content. There are already plenty of people who complain about "No bonus" in the pf on week one.

[bardaboo]

Ok. The other night totorak. A sinched down smn is barely using any dots or only dotting one mob then spamming ruin till its dead then switching. I'm on ps4 no parser but i know he's not doing well (he sucks) i tell him to dot multiple mobs and he argues. Now... imagine this guy had his own parser and could actually see if his numbers go up? Instead of him arguing i could say just try it and see. Instead he's going to continue being an idiot and never learn because he can't tell the difference.

[Musashidon]

well this is not what i expected but it's still enjoyable.

kinda funny to see a topic continue from something that is not even close to being on topic other than arguing about topics in general.