Meters

[KaitlanKela]

Parsers are don't ask don't tell and they're opposed to adding one directly into the game, citing concerns about community interaction.

I don't think that's going to change, as much as I personally am not opposed to parsers. Accept it and make a friend that plays on PC.

[Kaurie]

Parsers are don't ask don't tell and they're opposed to adding one directly into the game, citing concerns about community interaction.

I don't think that's going to change, as much as I personally am not opposed to parsers. Accept it and make a friend that plays on PC.

They've definitely had this stance, but they've also shown a willingness to change their stances and game design based on player feedback.

[WeekendSoja]

I want to stay optimistic about the implementation of a parser but it's like the a9n I did yesterday, there are just some baddies out there who just want nothing to do with improvement and optimization.

In that run the BLM tried giving the SMN some optimization advice, nothing to banana sandwich and the first thing out of the SMN's mouth is, "you parsing me?" He's giving you advice cause you obviously sucking in face roll content...

The "you parsing me" defense I believe trumps all feedback we give to get an in game implementation

[Khemorex]

couldnt care less if a parser is added or not , but what i care about is how everyone knows whats good for everyone else XD. I guess "its just a game" and not a competition for everyone else just coz u like to measure urself didnt get through to all :P

[AlexionSkylark]

This has been very extensibly discussed and SE/Yoshida's official response always was that they will not endorse the use of tools that facilitate judging, harassing/abusing or bragging of any player because of his performance (or lack of thereof). Also, as a main WHM, I cannot stress enough how measuring HPS is detrimental to good healing performance. HPS numbers are the least thing healers should be concerned about, specially since you're paired with another guy who needs to be your COMPLEMENTARY PARTNER, not your rival.

Or, in summary, "LOLZ BOW TO MY AWESOME DEEPS" or "WTF, 700 DPS? kick this noob!" is 100% NOT OK.
And BTW, if you see someone harassing a player due to poor DPS, you CAN report him, and it WILL result in disciplinary action from SE.

[Remus]

Yes to a parser so people can know they are doing 700-800 dps in ilvl 240+ :P (It hurts my soul seeing this... at least 1k+ please :< )

[AlexionSkylark]

Yes to a parser so people can know they are doing 700-800 dps in ilvl 240+ :P (It hurts my soul seeing this... at least 1k+ please :< )

Again, but NO to a parser where you can come up to said person and stress out how much of a noob they are and vote dismissing them.

[Dualgunner]

Again, but NO to a parser where you can come up to said person and stress out how much of a noob they are and vote dismissing them.

Those already exist.

"But they can be reported for abusing the terms of service!"

Adding a parser doesn't remove that from the terms of service. Sure it adds a "requirement"; a counterargument to that would be "Why don't we remove bonuses, as they are a requirement many people like and will kick over"?

[AlexionSkylark]

A 3rd-party client that's well established that it's against the TOS is way different than a tool provided by the game itself. It's all about the policy.

[Zojha]

a counterargument to that would be "Why don't we remove bonuses, as they are a requirement many people like and will kick over"?

Except most people see a bonus and go:
"Yay, free money/tomes!"

To the point people were very eager to carry people through coil during the relic stage to get their hands on the boni. It's only in hard content that it has a negative connotation. Parsing is the opposite - it's almost taken for granted in high performance content, whereas someone parsing Toto-Rak would be frowned upon.