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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    it is important to not let it go forgotten, as that helps the dev's realize it's something we still care about. I am not sure why you are concerned with the poor quality of posts we currently have on GD. Gems such as:

    opinions

    Oh look, I found some threads that I think are pointless. I didn't go into them and berate the OP for starting a discussion, I just decided not to take part in the discussion.
    Why would anyone care how you rate or feel about the threads you listed above? I mean that as a genuine question. Who are you?

    This topic has been beaten to death since the game started and hardly warrants a new post, so no need to be salty that someone called the OP out on it. SE moderators do it too. The reason for this is to compile the feedback for a certain topic or subject into 1 thread vs 1000 so it is easier for the devs to see feedback. This post/feedback about a topic that already has a HUGE thread about it just creates unnecessary fragmentation of feedback and it is counter productive - especially considering that a good bit of the posts in this thread are going back and forth for why or why not the thread even exists. Sooner or later mods will close it because it's gone off topic.

    Should have just left the initial feedback in the appropriate thread. But who am I? This is obviously my first post and I've never been here before.
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    Last edited by VoltaAsura; 10-14-2016 at 12:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonjiar View Post
    You know that certain classes have an aggro drop right? Being high on that table doesn't mean you're doing good dps.
    Did you know 90% of players arnt strong enough to even want to use those? Tanks have such high aggro now that most forget aggro reducers exsist.

    Don't use that excuse. If you use all classes and know the flow of fights you will know if aggro reducers are in place.
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    Parsers are don't ask don't tell and they're opposed to adding one directly into the game, citing concerns about community interaction.

    I don't think that's going to change, as much as I personally am not opposed to parsers. Accept it and make a friend that plays on PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaitlanKela View Post
    Parsers are don't ask don't tell and they're opposed to adding one directly into the game, citing concerns about community interaction.

    I don't think that's going to change, as much as I personally am not opposed to parsers. Accept it and make a friend that plays on PC.
    They've definitely had this stance, but they've also shown a willingness to change their stances and game design based on player feedback.
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    I want to stay optimistic about the implementation of a parser but it's like the a9n I did yesterday, there are just some baddies out there who just want nothing to do with improvement and optimization.

    In that run the BLM tried giving the SMN some optimization advice, nothing to banana sandwich and the first thing out of the SMN's mouth is, "you parsing me?" He's giving you advice cause you obviously sucking in face roll content...

    The "you parsing me" defense I believe trumps all feedback we give to get an in game implementation
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    Khalindra Nela
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    couldnt care less if a parser is added or not , but what i care about is how everyone knows whats good for everyone else XD. I guess "its just a game" and not a competition for everyone else just coz u like to measure urself didnt get through to all :P
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    This has been very extensibly discussed and SE/Yoshida's official response always was that they will not endorse the use of tools that facilitate judging, harassing/abusing or bragging of any player because of his performance (or lack of thereof). Also, as a main WHM, I cannot stress enough how measuring HPS is detrimental to good healing performance. HPS numbers are the least thing healers should be concerned about, specially since you're paired with another guy who needs to be your COMPLEMENTARY PARTNER, not your rival.

    Or, in summary, "LOLZ BOW TO MY AWESOME DEEPS" or "WTF, 700 DPS? kick this noob!" is 100% NOT OK.
    And BTW, if you see someone harassing a player due to poor DPS, you CAN report him, and it WILL result in disciplinary action from SE.
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    Last edited by AlexionSkylark; 10-14-2016 at 02:41 AM.

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    Robas Kebas
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    Yes to a parser so people can know they are doing 700-800 dps in ilvl 240+ :P (It hurts my soul seeing this... at least 1k+ please :< )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    Yes to a parser so people can know they are doing 700-800 dps in ilvl 240+ :P (It hurts my soul seeing this... at least 1k+ please :< )
    Again, but NO to a parser where you can come up to said person and stress out how much of a noob they are and vote dismissing them.
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
    Again, but NO to a parser where you can come up to said person and stress out how much of a noob they are and vote dismissing them.
    Those already exist.

    "But they can be reported for abusing the terms of service!"

    Adding a parser doesn't remove that from the terms of service. Sure it adds a "requirement"; a counterargument to that would be "Why don't we remove bonuses, as they are a requirement many people like and will kick over"?
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