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  1. #1
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    Nebulon Gumball
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    Question about Astrologian and buffing in 8-man raid.

    Is it better to AOE balance/arrow and buff the whole group, or is it better to use enhanced balance/arrow on the top DD in the group?
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    Hades Pluto
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    Honestly in 8 man trials AOE the balance and arrows cards since there's 8 people and that buff can make a huge difference
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    Citation Envoyé par Powe Voir le message
    Honestly in 8 man trials AOE the balance and arrows cards since there's 8 people and that buff can make a huge difference
    But the buff weakens to 10% for a balance AOE, but the enhanced version increases the cards by 150% potency. Isn't that more effective on someone that knows what their doing?
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    I still say AoE balance/arrow than enhanced. I only use enhance arrow "sometimes" to BLM or myself, or enhanced spear to myself for MP refresh and celestial oppression. I never use enhanced balance.
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    If you're getting bad luck with card draws and just can't get that spire/ewer, it's a greater dps loss to just hold onto that Balance/Arrow instead of using it. Personally, I wouldn't say to hold it for more than 2 draws tops, or that's potential dps you're just missing out on.

    Incidentally, did they do something to the RNG? Last three days all I've Drawn are Balances and Arrows, and the rare Spear, literally nothing else. What gives?
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    Poponemu Totonemu
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    Malboro
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    Except in very exceptional cases, you'll want to give it to the whole group. Consider the following distribution, top-DPS of 2000, 2 DPS at 1000, 1 DPS at 800, 2 tanks at 700, 1 healer at 300.
    Imgur hates me so you just get numbers.
    Even for this lopsided distribution, the total dps is 6500, 10% would then be 650, but adding 30% to the top dps would only be 600. And that gap only widens as you have a more even dps distribution.
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    Dernière modification de lyndwyrm, 13/10/2016 à 13h05

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    Pomelo Elmbrook
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    Odin
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    AOE Balance, extend it and then both healers help with DPSing
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    You probably should, but any good AST knows not to only focus on aoe cards only, as RNG will take over and you can never get the cards you need. not all situations would call for aoe cards either, like mechanics that will cause dps to not be able to stay on bosses for extended periods of time, or healing becoming to much for you to benefit from it, you choose based on situations.


    Citation Envoyé par Thunda_Cat_SMASH Voir le message
    Incidentally, did they do something to the RNG? Last three days all I've Drawn are Balances and Arrows, and the rare Spear, literally nothing else. What gives?
    No, they didn't as far i know the only change they did was so you don't shuffle the same card. but the RNG is still the same, as i'll get nothing but ewer and spire cards for 5 minutes straight. it's just RNG letting you know it still rules you.
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    Citation Envoyé par Bigcat9715 Voir le message
    But the buff weakens to 10% for a balance AOE, but the enhanced version increases the cards by 150% potency. Isn't that more effective on someone that knows what their doing?
    Yes, but only if they're the only person that knows what they're doing. Though of course that happens in df.
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    Xiao Tianfeng
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    Siren
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    Barde Lv 60
    the correct use of cards is to give enhanced balance to the cutest member of your team
    nothing else
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