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    [Fanfest] Open World PvP

    Now, during Friday's fanfest Yoshida was asked about possible open world PvP. As far as I can see no one's made a specific thread yet about this, as he did wish for player feedback on the topic.
    It was also mentioned that, due to the knowledge that some people would not want to PvP in the open world, they would create specific realms for players to go to to PvP.

    Question is, do you think this game needs open world PvP? Do you think it will bring in more players? If it was implemented would you prefer it was for all servers (but optional like in WoWs PvE realms), with specifically PvP enabled servers added, or only for specific realms with our realms kept the same?

    I personally wouldn't want forced PvP on my realm, Odin, as I'm a "care bear" who only PvPs when I want something. Optional PvP would be fine with me. That, and it would possibly make people actually use the open world that little bit more.

    Other than that I think maybe it would be cool to have a map created that is PvP specific, like a few MMOS have already done, where you go to PvP for rewards, etc. However, there is the issue that this map might not be used as much on a PvE realm since most of us play FFXIV because it centres around PvE in the first place.
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    Considering how popular PvP is in this game...

    I dunno. I think that speaks for itself. Best I could see is a semi-PvP-ish siege map where you are using vehicles and ballista more than actually PvPing with our characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Considering how popular PvP is in this game...

    I dunno. I think that speaks for itself. Best I could see is a semi-PvP-ish siege map where you are using vehicles and ballista more than actually PvPing with our characters.
    If you are suggesting the interest is overall low for PvP, I have a few ideas why:
    1. lack of crafted PvP gear
    2. Lack of armory space
    3. lack inventory space in general.

    As a crafter main, I just can't carry PvP gear. Too much space is used for gearing crafting jobs in armory, and in normal inventory, too much items in supplies. So I do not go flow blown PvP. I have 1 PvP weapon for black mage and that is all I can afford space wise. In Wow there was problems of raid gear being so much higher gear level then PvP gear, it blew PvP mains out of the water.

    I would welcome word PvP in some areas but the following needs to be addressed:
    1. Top raid gear vs top PvP gear
    2. inventory/Amory space (the fan fest talked about increasing inventory, but what about ARMORY? to fit new gathering materials, no gear, so on, you need to literally double all our current slots, to properly have room for everything. I am at 8 retainers, put the event glamor in the armory chest (not the gear armory I been talking about) and I still hurt for room, and it is still hard to actually do cooking, even with 8 retainers. I did not even want crafting and battle on the same character due to inventory issues, but SE content blocked my crafter and I am stuck hurting for inventory slots, leaving no room for PvP gear.
    3. Job balance, how do less defensive jobs defend themselves? would black mages be easy kills? will a tank/dps vs a healer be a never ending battle?
    4. Gathering, how would gathering +PvP be addressed?

    ~~~Momo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Considering how popular PvP is in this game...

    I dunno. I think that speaks for itself. Best I could see is a semi-PvP-ish siege map where you are using vehicles and ballista more than actually PvPing with our characters.
    How about no? this kind of "PvP" should never exist in any MMO ever.
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    Now imagine if they do that PvP open world and then they put a unspoiled node in that map, the horrors for gatherers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Losstarot View Post
    Now imagine if they do that PvP open world and then they put a unspoiled node in that map, the horrors for gatherers
    I'd imagine they'd maybe turn pvp off for gatherer classes, since they have no battle abilities in the first place /maybe/... Or make it that you have to be on a gatherer / crafter to fight another gatherer / crafter, which sounds hilarious and very, very slow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokier View Post
    I'd imagine they'd maybe turn pvp off for gatherer classes, since they have no battle abilities in the first place /maybe/... Or make it that you have to be on a gatherer / crafter to fight another gatherer / crafter, which sounds hilarious and very, very slow.
    Epic battles with pick axes and hatchets... The node would dissapear a couple of times before someone even dies lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Losstarot View Post
    Epic battles with pick axes and hatchets... The node would dissapear a couple of times before someone even dies lol
    Then the fisher comes along and engages with their rod!
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    I think a map the size of ARR's old maps or smaller where you can go in and PvP would actually be nice.

    If he wanted to keep the GC restriction that would be fine, just a free for all. Maybe capture forts or having glamour drops in there from the mobs. Or maybe even decent mining nodes,etc. Of course make whatever drops in there tradeable for the people that don't want to go.
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    I like PvP but you can't just throw open world PvP into a game that isn't at all designed around PvP and expect it to be anything but a flop. They need to actually work on fixing their instanced PvP first and make FFXIV not a game that so many people know as having terrible PvP.
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