Ifirit, how it could have been done better.

[RemVye]

If the Ifrit fight itself isn't difficult (which it's not) then the solution isn't to make the drops super rare, it's to make the drops not as good. I don't understand how you can possibly justify getting Dark Matter 50 times in a row unless you just like doing mindless shit. Duplicates are NOT the only flaw.




Let's artificially extend content life by filling players' pockets with Dark Matter because we put a 15 minute lockout on success instead of something more fitting.

Yeah - maybe we should go to 24-72 HNM pops that have the same low drop rate but 3 day wait / camp fest. The Ifrit fight is engaging, albeit it's fairly simple when you get it down and presents no struggle; you still don't see everyone beating it.

You want this to be WoW where you are guaranteed a drop every run? Cause that's fun... show up get gear log on next patch...

what's your suggestion mr. pro game designer

[RemVye]

Gear can be an upgrade and worth getting without blowing everything else out of the water. This also opens you up for PROGRESSION with future content. The point is that if you've killed Ifrit 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 100 times then YES you've proven you can beat him and you should be done. I just grouped with someone on my server who finally got her last weapon after 350 fights. That. is. retarded.

And some people spent months / years camping NM's and didn't get anything.. what's your point?

[NoctisUmbra]

Gear can be an upgrade and worth getting without blowing everything else out of the water. This also opens you up for PROGRESSION with future content. The point is that if you've killed Ifrit 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 100 times then YES you've proven you can beat him and you should be done. I just grouped with someone on my server who finally got her last weapon after 350 fights. That. is. retarded.

Again this is due to the 2nd layer RNG - the duplicates going to waste. How many times have I said that now? You're a lost cause...

[Brannigan]

And some people spent months / years camping NM's and didn't get anything.. what's your point?

My point is that is fucking retarded.

You want this to be WoW where you are guaranteed a drop every run? Cause that's fun... show up get gear log on next patch...

what's your suggestion mr. pro game designer

WoW, EQ, etc. Yeah. Common and rare drops that are both useful. Dark Matter/nothing consolation prize is dumb as hell.

[Brannigan]

Again this is due to the 2nd layer RNG - the duplicates going to waste. How many times have I said that now? You're a lost cause...

I've seen one(1(a single, non-duplicate harpoon)) weapon drop in 60+ kills now so duplicates are not the only problem )))

[NoctisUmbra]

I've seen one(1(a single, non-duplicate harpoon)) weapon drop in 60+ kills now so duplicates are not the only problem )))

I heard if you lay Lady Luck you get a Harpoon.

A LSmate of mine got 2 harpoons back to back on his very first 2 kills. On top of that he got a Cudgel on his 3rd kill. It works.

[RemVye]

My point is that is fucking retarded.


WoW, EQ, etc. Yeah. Common and rare drops that are both useful. Dark Matter/nothing consolation prize is dumb as hell.

Yes, def should have a game where everyone gets something in a run and everything is running around in the same gear set with no effort! Show up get loot! (Fun)!

If that's how you feel... this is not the game for you.


For the 12th time... the only flaw in the Ifrit fight is that you are able to get duplicates of items you already own.


Solution is to lower the drop rate and allow for trading of weapons or prevent users from getting weapons they don't have yet. Yoshi N' Crew talked about giving a gauranteed drop if you didn't receive one after X kills... I hope it's 25+ to be honest. Loot shouldn't be given away like candy on Halloween.

[Brannigan]

For the 12th time... the only flaw in the Ifrit fight is that you are able to get duplicates of items you already own.

For the 12th time you are wrong. : )

p.s. "This game is not for you" lol good one. I'm sure that'll go over well while re-launching this game for 2.0

[RemVye]

For the 12th time you are wrong. : )

p.s. "This game is not for you" lol good one. I'm sure that'll go over well while re-launching this game for 2.0

If you expect to show up once and get loot, you're a fool Harry Potter... you will lose

[Brannigan]

If you expect to show up once and get loot, you're a fool Harry Potter... you will lose

And if you really, truly think that the only problem with this loot system is duplicates then I hope for your sake you don't get unlucky on moogle drops.