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    FFXIV to learn a language

    So, I'm considering getting a friend into FFXIV. They don't have time for gaming since they're practicing the English language atm, and I wanted to ask, how good a tool do people think FFXIV (and other multiplayer, or maybe even single player games) is for practicing and mastering a language? I'm hoping I can convince them, be nice to get them on Odin and able to help them out and stuff.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    I would say it is pretty good practice as there is quite literally a lot of reading in the game (and reading and speaking/writing in a "real" environmnt are imo the best ways to learn a language). Just sure be to help correct them on the English as no one else likely will as they are used too people who do not speak it as their first language.

    (see what I did there? )
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    Learn, explore, and think for yourself. Make your choices, take actions, and let yourself be free.

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    The nearly unintelligible FAKE old english that the orginal FFXIV:ARR has(or had, if they fixed it) would NOT be helpful for your friend to read. The expansion dialogue is fine.
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    Last edited by Elim; 10-12-2016 at 02:57 PM.

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    The English used in the game's text is pretty old-timey, if it is also littered with "flavour" like the pirate dialect in Limsa, it can be really hard to understand anything at all, especially to someone who is still learning (I know at least I dropped my attempt to play in English because of that..).
    The English the players speak is often very faulty, either because they also aren't native speakers or ARE native speakers but - because it's the internet - appearently don't know how English works anymore ^^°

    Overall, I wouldn't call the game a good place to learn the language. But people learn the fastest when they do something they enjoy, so...yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
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    Funny ya should mention that actually, I was talking with her today and said "brolly" (slang for umbrella), she thought I'd said bra by accident, I said I was gonna hold her brolly for her, so that misinterpretation caused all manner of awkwardness for the both of us. But yeah, when I'm speaking to her about it, I'd make sure I explain things in solid English. I've already learned I need to be careful with my Yorkshire slang. But yeah, I'm a bit worried about that now that I think about it. I thought it'd be a good tool, but it seems I was wrong. That said, I wouldn't know as I've never played my game in anything other than English of which I am a native speaker.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Honestly I'm a native English speaker and I can have trouble understanding the psudo-Shakespearean at times, especially with the Limsa NPCs.
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    If they get friends in game and start talking to them in English on voice chat, it's going to be great for learning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortified View Post
    Honestly I'm a native English speaker and I can have trouble understanding the psudo-Shakespearean at times, especially with the Limsa NPCs.
    I know literally nothing but English, but jesus christ I can barely understand what's coming out of Jacke's mouth sometimes.

    The worst part is when they go to Urianger, and he has to speak even older fake old english. He was the only one that spoke like this in Japanese, idk why they thought it would add something to apply it to everyone.
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    Last edited by basketofseals; 10-12-2016 at 08:13 AM.

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    The english dialogue is a horrible tool to teach english with. In limsa i just smile and nod, and english is my mother tongue.

    "Anyroad, we must needs traverse several malms 'fore we arrive at the nearest aetheryte crystal. Mayhap the sojourn ought to be more prompt on chocobo-back."

    These are things native english speakers just do not say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    The nearly intelligible FAKE old english that the orginal FFXIV:ARR has(or had, if they fixed it) would NOT be helpful for your friend to read. The expansion dialogue is fine.
    Agree

    FFXIV:ARR english is like an alien language
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