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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    I hate to rain on the parade, but Yda is not royalty. Probably.
    I've got one better.

    The girl with Papalymo is not Yda. That's why he said he shouldn't have given her the mask, because it made people recognize her as Yda. Gundobald also said she looked as young as the day she left. Watch all the cut scenes very carefully from that point forward. Clues are there. Who is she? Yda's sister, maybe.
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    I wonder
    Now that we know that the thirteenth reflection is the Void, and we're generally dealing with alternate realities, could we possibly see a "dark/void" reflection of NPC's our PC has known and loved?

    /characterrrssss
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    Quote Originally Posted by AutumnHarvestwind View Post
    I wonder
    Now that we know that the thirteenth reflection is the Void, and we're generally dealing with alternate realities, could we possibly see a "dark/void" reflection of NPC's our PC has known and loved?

    /characterrrssss
    The inhabitants of the 13th were corrupted by darkness and became the voidsent that now populate the void so we likely won't be meeting anyone recognisable there. It would appear the shard worlds aren't exact reflections anyway; they clearly have their own unique peoples and histories as evidenced by the WoDs. They were probably reflections of the Source at the moment they were all created but have since diverged dramatically.
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    yea, I agree with you, fanfest cleared up a lot of things with the parallel worlds and the WOD ( devout and whitemage, etc etc)..
    I have no other wacky theories.
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    The singing shards quest seem to be another sign that the main character has something "off" about them, that there is something abnormal about their powers, or both. I'm not sure what else to call it when your memories are so messed up they start enchanting items with detectable sorrow and the death of others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    The singing shards quest seem to be another sign that the main character has something "off" about them, that there is something abnormal about their powers, or both. I'm not sure what else to call it when your memories are so messed up they start enchanting items with detectable sorrow and the death of others.
    Well they are moments of conflict. From the loser's side of things it would be a nightmarish and terrible experience. God knows there would be groups out there we have fought who would see us as a terrible villain.

    Lets not mince words here. In most of those dungeons we are killing people.
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    So after reading the Encyclopædia a bit something dawned upon me.

    I expected it to fully dismiss my Mhach = Mhigo theory.

    Instead it.. kinda supports it. to a degree.


    It specifically mentions the Bela'dians to be of the "lalafellin heirs of Mhach"
    So the lalafells went south.
    Highlanders come to Gyr Abania soon after mhachs destruction guided by a comet.

    To go from Yafeam to Gyr Abania one has to pass through the black shroud
    Ramuh is said to have come into existance when man came with axes and torches.
    Ramuh looks a helluva lot like the statue of Rhalgr in Gyr abania. (also im curious, anything on why Ramuh got Ascian like wings?)


    So if the lalafells went south and the Highlanders went east, following a comet, What if the statue of (supposedly) rhalgr in the void ark was a high mage of mhach, and that he later grew old by the time the highlanders reached the shroud, inspiring the sylphs to summon a "lord of levin" to punish those who opposed them.
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    While reading through the Encyclopedia Eorzea, a couple things came together with things we've seen in-game and this crazy theory popped in my head.

    Unukalhai is a former Warrior of Light.

    Specifically the Warrior of Light from the 13th world, the one that fell to the Ascian plotting too quickly and was thus transformed into the void, with the World of Darkness as its precipice.

    He tells us of how his world was one where champions would slay their primal-like beings and use auracite to capture their essence, becoming empowered. This eventually led to the fall of his world and the dreadful transformation of those who wielded the auracite...he then drifted alone in darkness, before being rescued by Elidibus. We do know that it doesn't require the Warrior of Light on the Source to slay primals, though without the Echo (curiously, Unukalhai has an ability similar to the Echo) it can come at a great cost...so those champions on his world need not have been Warriors of Light themselves.

    Enter Cuchulainn. As stated in the EE, there is one theory that holds that the voids creation came about due to champions, including Cuchulainn, wielding auracite to combat their plane's primals, but becoming transformed as it happened...and eventually as they warred over the dwindling source of aether, the "Flood of Darkness was unleashed."

    Seems to cleanly place Unukalhai on the same world that would become the void, does it not? So where does the Warrior of Light aspect come in?

    Igeyorhm.

    It was she that was too successful, residing in the 13th world, where her "power proved too much for the inexperienced Bringer of Light, and their one-sided battles eventually resulted in a Flood of Darkness consuming the entire world and rendering it a nigh-empty void." The same void, it would seem, from which Cuchulainn hailed. The same Cuchulainn that, according to one theory, was transformed by the use of auracite, in a manner all too similar to what Unukalhai said he experienced. Also worth noting that the WoL of the world that fell and became the void due to Igeyorhm's being too successful is described as inexperienced...which is either an error, or Hydaelyn's chosen of that realm and the champions slaying primals and becoming more and more powerful are most likely distinctly separate.

    Interesting as well (assuming that Unukalhai's world and Igeyorhm's 13th are the same world, and they sure do seem to be here), that what supposedly happened to the rest of the beings left was that they changed and became aether-starved monsters. Now there's two possibilities here - one is that Unukalhai was like-wise changed, and in a manner consistent with other voidsent, is merely occupying the body he inhabits in the Source and it is not his. The other is that he did not change and was ultimately protected - perhaps by a gift from Hydaelyn from a time when she was strong enough to at least offer that much across to the 13th.

    So that's my crazy theory - Unukalhai and Igeyorhm clashed on the 13th, but being young and inexperienced he never stood a chance, while she actively encouraged other champions of a more power hungry nature to employ the use of auracite to deal with the primal threats, knowing of its fatal flaw and believing that it would lead to the desired result of a Rejoining...but she was overzealous and moved too early, and also overestimated Unukalhai and underestimated the impact of the auracite using champions (and the timing with an attempt at an Ardor on the Source may have been off as well), and the world fell to become the void, leaving Unukalhai protected from becoming voidsent, yet alone until found by Elidibus. Partially out of gratitude and knowing full well the impact that imbalance between the Dark and Light, especially if it happens at the "wrong" time, he chose to serve Elidibus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    While reading through the Encyclopedia Eorzea, a couple things came together with things we've seen in-game and this crazy theory popped in my head.

    Unukalhai is a former Warrior of Light.

    Specifically the Warrior of Light from the 13th world, the one that fell to the Ascian plotting too quickly and was thus transformed into the void, with the World of Darkness as its precipice.

    ...

    Seems to cleanly place Unukalhai on the same world that would become the void, does it not?
    I like that idea, particularly as the constellation Unukalhai is in is sometimes considered the 13th zodiac sign.

    My personal crazy theory is that The Twelve (referenced as deities) are the 12 other worlds. Just as Hydaelyn is the spirit of the source, each of the other worlds has a 'living soul' and those are The Twelve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagittarian View Post
    My personal crazy theory is that The Twelve (referenced as deities) are the 12 other worlds. Just as Hydaelyn is the spirit of the source, each of the other worlds has a 'living soul' and those are The Twelve.
    I've tossed around a similar idea in the past, but never believed it enough to do anything with it, lol. I can almost kind of make it work if I assume the worlds are 12 + Light + Dark, whereby I guess The Thirteenth (Void) would be Darkness and the Source would be Light. This also helps fit it in with the Seven Heavens and the Seven Hells. However, I have a harder time making it work when you take into account that Eorzeans believe that the gods are actually only in SIX of them, and the hells were just created as a biproduct. Though the void does work as a source for the Black Warden, though we've repeatedly been told that the concepts of the void and the hells are meant to be different.

    I have it on the list of possibilities that I've thought of but never fleshed out ><
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