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    Quote Originally Posted by Malzian View Post
    I've noticed that with chemistries like 'When accompany someone of a different race...' and such don't work if you have even a single member who's of the same race/class as the person with the chemistry.
    You mean, it does not work on the app, or in game ?
    If it's on the app, I'm performing some tests right now and it seem to work for me, or maybe I did not understand the issue ? Can you provide me an export code for a squadron giving wrong results, with an explanation of the expected results ? Thanks.
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    It works in the app, but not in the game. I have a Hyur Conjurer with 'When accompanying someone of a different race, tactical ability is increased by 10%.' This works fine and the results are good when there are no other Hyurs in the deployment squad. However, when I include my Hyur gladiator, the chemistry becomes inactive and I lose that 10% bonus in the game, but the app still is applying it as if it were active.

    My squad's out right now, when they come back tomorrow I'll see if I can come up with an example for you.
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  3. #53
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    Thanks for making the tool for the community, but I think it will be useful to add a "9th" slot for that new comer. that 9th person might just suddenly make 100% failed lv40 mission into 100% success.

    Everyone has their own style, but here is just how I did it. I didn't say you or anyone else should do it too... (sorry for bad English if you decided to read...)

    I actually modified someone's Google Sheet and made my own format. I added the "difference" portion after the total attributes, and later I found myself only look at the difference portion since it's easier to understand.
    Here I used the final weekly mission as example, and all 8 of my members are lv50.

    so from the chart I understand no matter what the total raw attribute will be -14 no matter what it won't be 100% success without bonus.

    I put the difference into color coding. if the stat is over the requirement, it will be green highlighted. if it's negative, there is no high light but with green text (under -20) yellow text (between -21 to -40) red text (over -60)

    =================================================================

    Here is another example of my alt's lv40 mission:

    Since it's lv40 mission, everything need to pass, so I just ignore all the negative total ones and only focus these positive total combo.
    such as this one you can actually see there are some workable some won't. To my mind I can instantly tell: (number by row)
    1. won't work, don't bother
    2. need 2 tact trainings ( -40, -40, +80) = ( +8, +15, +9)
    3. need one power tact training (+20, -40, +20) = (+14, +16, +4)
    4. won't work
    5. won't work
    6. actually will work, 2x mental + tact training (-80, +40, +40) = (+5, +6, +13)
    as you see my judgement is not exactly equal to the gray highlighted text's direction... because some of them simply won't work...

    =====================================================================

    I have a special 9th slot for the pending applicant inside my desk... I used to keep them if it's the job I don't have... (but now I maxed everything, so I usually just kick them without summon in...)



    I used to be want everything 100% success, so I use this spread sheet a lot, but now... I just whatever and gamble it... it's very useful for lv40 mission tho...
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malzian View Post
    I have a Hyur Conjurer with 'When accompanying someone of a different race, tactical ability is increased by 10%.' This works fine and the results are good when there are no other Hyurs in the deployment squad. However, when I include my Hyur gladiator, the chemistry becomes inactive and I lose that 10% bonus in the game, but the app still is applying it as if it were active.
    So in other words, the chemistry is : "When accompanying 3 recruits of a different race than mine" ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deli View Post
    Thanks for making the tool for the community, but I think it will be useful to add a "9th" slot for that new comer. that 9th person might just suddenly make 100% failed lv40 mission into 100% success.
    I'll think about it. I have less time to work on this at the moment so I don't know when I'll look into this idea, but in the meantime you can use the different tabs to create different squadrons and test different results.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoi View Post
    So in other words, the chemistry is : "When accompanying 3 recruits of a different race than mine" ?
    Seems to be what it boils down to, even though in the game it's written 'When accompanying someone of a different race...'. Here's the code for my current squad:
    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
    The current mission I'm checking that shows this it has the attributes: PHY 455 MEN 315 TAC 190, Elezen and Au Ra affinities.

    The initial attributes (before it takes the chemistries into account) the calc tells me I should have are: PHY 515 MEN 333 TAC 326

    The final attributes (after chemistries are calculated in) the calc tells me I should have are: PHY 515 MEN 337 TAC 329

    However, the attributes the -game- gives me are PHY 515 MEN 337 TAC 326

    Granted, in this case it's a small variance, but at one point the calc was 3 points higher on TAC than the actual attributes and those 3 points ended up being the difference between 'Bound to succeed' and 'Will be challenging'.
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  6. #56
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    This one was an easy fix, it should work now.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoi View Post
    This one was an easy fix, it should work now.
    Yep, working properly now. Thanks!
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  8. #58
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    Hey
    I just wanted to ask you if you want to have a german translation for your site?
    Would be cool to have it on another language than english
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lainio View Post
    Hey
    I just wanted to ask you if you want to have a german translation for your site?
    Would be cool to have it on another language than english
    English only, as far as I know. However, while it might not be the best translating, Google Translate does translate full pages:
    https://translate.google.com/transla...vsquadron.com/
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    Google Translation is extremely bad and confuse more then it helps xD I was just asking if I could translate it
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