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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    In Zantetsuken defense. The majority has given valid reasoning and irrefutable factual evidence in past discussions in threads many times. You didn't see them. It would be wise to look them over on your free time.
    Oh no I HAVE read them which is why I made the statement I made. lol Doesn't seem to matter to ANY of those against a "pet" what other opinions are and reasons why or even the compromises suggested. It's either their way or the highway and it's getting pretty old hearing the constant bitching without any constructive discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geesus View Post

    No offense but this statement and mentality ISN'T valid; it's moot. Give real reason
    Real ones:
    Screen clutter
    Poor implementation ( control, focusing time/effort on it keeping it alive or up to standards, basically having to function as a pet job )
    When it does die losing DoT from its strikes or possible other actions that people want to give it
    Balance (I dont care how easy some people say balance is, its childish to glance over it)
    FFXIV lore (we will be defending Ishgard from dragons in future content)
    +w/e anyone else thinks

    personal: (remember these are my opinion)
    I did it as a pet, liked it, want something different
    XI didnt have enough in the actual player
    Dont wanna have to focus on something that is a gimmick and adds nothing of value
    want more draconic themed abilities (lancet, breaths, reis's wind, dragons crest, wyrmkiller, dragonheart)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    FFXIV lore (we will be defending Ishgard from dragons in future content)
    Ok explain this to me, but I'm pretty sure the XI lore was ALSO that they were Dragon killers so this statement always stumps me as a "reason" not to have it?

    As for the other points ok; but also still doesn't offer any other ideas other than NO YOU CANNOT HAZ! O.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geesus View Post
    Ok explain this to me, but I'm pretty sure the XI lore was ALSO that they were Dragon killers so this statement always stumps me as a "reason" not to have it?

    As for the other points ok; but also still doesn't offer any other ideas other than NO YOU CANNOT HAZ! O.o
    Actually this part has been confusing me a bit, I think some people have some XI lore mixed up. DRGs and Dragonslayers were two different things in that game.

    EDIT HERE > spoiler (idk the code for it so if the spoiler thing doesnt work, you've been warned.
    Arminibit : You hear more and more talk of the Dragon King Ranperre these days. They say that his top vassal was a dragoon. I wonder what ever happened to all the dragoons...

    Ceraulian : I heard that to become a dragoon, you had to make a pact with a living wyvern. However, thanks to the dragonslayers, there aren't that many dragons left.

    Arminibit : The dragon slayers keep down the number of deadly dragons, but the number of dragoons can never go up. It's a sad, sad cycle.

    Arminibit : They say that King Ranperre's top vassal, the "Last of the Dragoons," collapsed after a battle with a dragonslayer.
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    Last edited by Volsung; 11-16-2011 at 06:02 AM.

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    Don't forget we'll be having content where we defend Ishgard from dragons xD
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    WAIT. . . what if it could only be summoned if your hp is really low? Think of it like "blood spilled" causes it to appear. That or we just get draconic abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post

    So, why having a dragon at all?


    It could be more than just decoration or a Pokemon clone but a valid partner of the dragon knight that can be called when needed (and be sent away anytime, too).
    The dragon should be an active part of the fighting, like a team member, just one that doesn't take away any other member's space.
    No, thanks. The red part is exactly why we are having all this DRG issue...by not using party slot means that DRG + pet must be even to a petless class, forcing SE to weakens both DRG and Wyvern.
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    Tbh I haven't played the game in 3 years and I haven't done the quest in 4 so yeah...I honestly can't remember but for some reason I do think there was a part of the story that mentioned the fall of the original drg and yada yada and training your Wyvern and proving yourself to cherish the creatures and not turn into said bad Drg idfk LOLOL. Been to long. If that's the case that Drgs are suppose to be Dragon killers than 1) don't call them Dragoons call them Dragon Slayers 2) STOP CALLING THEM DRAGOONS!!! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geesus View Post
    Tbh I haven't played the game in 3 years and I haven't done the quest in 4 so yeah...I honestly can't remember but for some reason I do think there was a part of the story that mentioned the fall of the original drg and yada yada and training your Wyvern and proving yourself to cherish the creatures and not turn into said bad Drg idfk LOLOL. Been to long. If that's the case that Drgs are suppose to be Dragon killers than 1) don't call them Dragoons call them Dragon Slayers 2) STOP CALLING THEM DRAGOONS!!! lol
    B-But, Dragoon have Dragon Killer job trait in FFXI.
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    @Loggos:

    You took all the good ideas from the dragoon threads and added your own.
    It's exactly what I'd like to see. I believe both sides can be happy.
    I really hope SE reads and considers this.
    Thank you for making this thread. ^^
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