What job was she?

[Jonnycbad]

... if they added it as a tank class as suggested above. That would get a lot of fuss from people, though, because it wouldn't be RDM's traditional "jack of all trades" flavor; it would be trading a good chunk of its damage output in favor of increased survivability. (Tanks don't have the best damage capabilities, Deliverance WARs aside. Have I told you about my lord and savior Fell Cleave?)

Actually RDM's DPS output as a 'jack of all trades' would fit nicely with a tank's DPS output anyway. RDM was never a major DPS in any FF game anyway.

[CyrusArjuna]

My take on RDM's lore (especially since it was strongly hinted at Fanfest) is that it's how the Ala Mhigans found a way to weave magic with their weapon in a way more fitting warlike culture. Or maybe they're Ala Mhigan mage killers?

I just hope we get a Joyeuse as a relic weapon.

[Cilia]

I just hope we get a Joyeuse as a relic weapon.

Ehh? What's so special about Percival's sword?

Or is it one of those XI things? I bet it is!

[WhiteArchmage]

Joyeuse has also been used for Red Mages in FFTA and A2, where rapiers were exclusive to Red Mage (and elementalist)

[Morningstar1337]

Ehh? What's so special about Percival's sword?

Or is it one of those XI things? I bet it is!

Dosne;t have to be XI related, SE takes their names from everywhere, regardless of its significance in its original context. And this goes the other way as well with the world-rending events Ragnarok, Apocalypse and Armageddon being given to the weapons in this game. Any name in mythology (Including literature such as the Bible and The Song of Roland) is fair game.

This also means for example Fail-Not is a candidate for a BRD relic, despite Tristain being relatively unimportant (one tragic love story aside) compared to Arthur and Lancelot.

Also I thought Joyeuse was Charlemange's sword.

[ADVSS]

My take on RDM's lore (especially since it was strongly hinted at Fanfest) is that it's how the Ala Mhigans found a way to weave magic with their weapon in a way more fitting warlike culture. Or maybe they're Ala Mhigan mage killers?

I just hope we get a Joyeuse as a relic weapon.

yeah i can easilly romanticize some sort of mage hunter/witch/demon hunter hell that hat looks very hellsing-ish

[Cilia]

Dosne;t have to be XI related, SE takes their names from everywhere, regardless of its significance in its original context. And this goes the other way as well with the world-rending events Ragnarok, Apocalypse and Armageddon being given to the weapons in this game. Any name in mythology (Including literature such as the Bible and The Song of Roland) is fair game.

This also means for example Fail-Not is a candidate for a BRD relic, despite Tristain being relatively unimportant (one tragic love story aside) compared to Arthur and Lancelot.

Also I thought Joyeuse was Charlemange's sword.

You're right... I had it mixed up.

And it was just a sardonic joke poking fun at how utterly predictable it would be for someone to say "It was RDM's relic weapon in XI, so I want it to be here too!" because that is exactly the case. Second search for "Joyeuse" using Google is "Joyeuse ffxi." Damn I'm smart!

You expect me to believe someone wants it because it was Red Mage's signature weapon in a couple of Tactics spinoff games? As if!

[Vexander]

My take on RDM's lore (especially since it was strongly hinted at Fanfest) is that it's how the Ala Mhigans found a way to weave magic with their weapon in a way more fitting warlike culture. Or maybe they're Ala Mhigan mage killers?

I just hope we get a Joyeuse as a relic weapon.

I rather hope Red Mages have nothing to do with Ala Mhigo lorewise to be honest. Its an iconic class that should be standing with Black Mage and White Mage, or at least have a more magical-national-origin like Sharlayan.

[Morningstar1337]

I rather hope Red Mages have nothing to do with Ala Mhigo lorewise to be honest. Its an iconic class that should be standing with Black Mage and White Mage, or at least have a more magical-national-origin like Sharlayan.

I'm gonna play devils advocate here

• First regarding the "more-magical-nation" thing. What we know of MNK lore implies that MNK is very much magical in nature, they just prefer to punch stuff instead of casting fireballs, but these punches are augmented by their chakra
• Secondly there is their architecture and iconography, both hind at more magical influences as well. The architecture is claimed to be based on that of the Renaissance era, the period of Enlightenment, and thir patron Rhalgr is symbolized by a Meteor, a Black Magic staple. I don;t think They are idiotic muscleheads, but they just apply magic differently, for that reason It might stand to reason another Melee focused form of magic, the Magic Knight (AKA Spellbalde, Mystic Knight, Rune Fencer and in XI Red Mage) could arise there.
• Lets compare their culture with that of Sharlayan. As it stands, they value their knowledge like Ul'dah values their coin, and from what we see form the AST quests, they seem to be content to stand atop their ivory towers, seeing themselves as above the "dumb commoners" of the other nations. For that reason they seem to hold those that want to help other people (especialy by using knowledge that they think are unworthy to even witness) such as the Circle of Knowing and Leveva, in contempt. A RDM trainer form there might be possible, but unlikely as they are liable to clamp down on dissenters after Leveva's escape is inevitably known (and likely already have after Louisoux left)
• The other Magical nations are remnants of an ancient war that likely saw to their that their cultures (and this their elements) never meet. Though with Nym being neutral in Mhach and Amdapor's conflict they are more likely to use all 6 elements on the same magic, but so far their only Job, SCH shows nothing of that

[Vexander]

To be fair, it is only a single faction within Sharlayan which is particularly adamant about keeping Sharlayan knowledge and magic in Sharlayan hands; the Bibliothecs. Prior to that, however, Sharlayan seemed almost open-handed in sharing their knowledge with those who sought it. We have NPCs such as the Ishgardian Astrologian who studied in Sharlayan, and refugees like Yda who came to the colony and were taken in. The Sharlayans shared their knowledge of Astrology with the Ishgardians who just developed their own branch of it to predict the movements of the Dragons.

I'd happily see an opposing faction from Sharlayan making strides to share their knowledge with Eorzeans, especially if Levava's example is what drives them to take action rather than debate it in the forums.