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  1. #41
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    I wish we had more kinds of raids other than 8 and 24 man raids.
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  2. #42
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    umm. you can get 10 tokens in 1 day from duty finder, the crafted weapon is far harder to get since it actually needs a rare drop.
    Don't mind the Duty Finder, just do a 1tank 1healer rest DPS group in Part Finder instead. You skip about 80% of all the mechanics and can skip the adds, takes like 4 min per fight. Ravana EX is so easy it's laughable right now.
    This is what I thought OP was going for when I first began to read his post. How nightmarish it could be to farm the weapons before, but now anyone can get it without even trying basicly.
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    Tiger Undie
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    I wish we had more kinds of raids other than 8 and 24 man raids.
    isnt potd a 1 to 4 man raid? just wait for the new 150 floors
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  4. #44
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    isnt potd a 1 to 4 man raid? just wait for the new 150 floors
    That's more of a dungeon with randomized gimmicks. Raids are typically larger in scale. It ain't exactly a raid if you're soloing it :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    Well, yeah. Just release a new raid that doesn't drop better gear. People would still run that, right? :P
    If you need to bribe players with new gear to run raid content, does that not tell you that most people are actually not interested in doing that content in the first place? Raids and content like raids should be run for the feeling of accomplishment, by forcing players to run content they don't like just to stay viable, you're making them do stuff they don't enjoy and taking the fun out of the game for those players.
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    The upgraded version of the weapons don't look that great. I prefer the originals.
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    Shocking revelation:
    You're going to die one day.
    Everything you did will wither in time and lose its meaning.
    Your legacy, your achievements, your loves and passions will be eradicated.
    And in the grand scale of things, even earths existence is but a tiny little dot.

    Ermegarde, it's just so pointless! So what? Enjoy it while it lasts and try to let others do the same >_>
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Don't mind the Duty Finder, just do a 1tank 1healer rest DPS group in Part Finder instead. You skip about 80% of all the mechanics and can skip the adds, takes like 4 min per fight. Ravana EX is so easy it's laughable right now.
    This is what I thought OP was going for when I first began to read his post. How nightmarish it could be to farm the weapons before, but now anyone can get it without even trying basicly.
    I dont like to ruin the fights in party finder, I do extreme primals in duty finder pretty often, enemies should not drop anything if you do them unsynced.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    I dont like to ruin the fights in party finder, I do extreme primals in duty finder pretty often, enemies should not drop anything if you do them unsynced.
    I agree, unsynced should have more "penelties" to it.
    But you can't unsync Ravana EX yet. So what I said is 100% synced
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zafrei View Post
    If you need to bribe players with new gear to run raid content, does that not tell you that most people are actually not interested in doing that content in the first place? Raids and content like raids should be run for the feeling of accomplishment, by forcing players to run content they don't like just to stay viable, you're making them do stuff they don't enjoy and taking the fun out of the game for those players.
    Except that's not how most players work. Far and away, MMO's have shown that most players need reward to do something, even something they would find fun without it.

    Second, rewards give longevity. If there was no reward at the end of an instance, how many times would an average player go through it? Once or none.

    People who enjoy content for the experience it provides and do things for a sense of accomplishment (outside of completionism) are few and far between.

    Hell, there was a huge thread around here the past few days complaining that there's no incentive to ever do end-game content. See what I mean?
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    Last edited by dragonseth07; 10-08-2016 at 10:35 PM.

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