It is all so ....useless

[mp-please]

Most mmos don't kill off their gear this fast. So I don't think the "You're playing a MMO" really applies here.

Most MMOs don't have a 3 month patch cycle either. Ravex was also pretty short lived due to how easy it was to get the tome weapon back on 3.0, you'd get the i180 law weapon, then you'd run ravex with the 180 weapon and upgrade to i190 while saving esoterics for your i200 upgrade which only took ~3 weeks to get back then.
Only ex primal that died faster than ravex was bismark as he was only required to unlock ravex for a short amount of time and only dropped i175 stuff.

Actually, if we're going to complain about gear dying, why not talk about bisex weapons? They literally died on arrival since law weapons were a joke to get.

[Terribad]

Most MMOs don't have a 3 month patch cycle either.

That was kind of the point...

However I'm sure they could still have 3 month patches without killing the gear off.

[dragonseth07]

That was kind of the point...

However I'm sure they could still have 3 month patches without killing the gear off.

Well, yeah. Just release a new raid that doesn't drop better gear. People would still run that, right? :P

[Doki]

Power creep gets us all eventually.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Threads like this always make me wonder if I'm the only one that liked the simpler glamour, like the Baldur weapons or the Misericordes. Glowy weapons always irked me. :'D

[Durthane]

Well, yeah. Just release a new raid that doesn't drop better gear. People would still run that, right? :P

I would. Upward progression is just one way to run an MMO.


FFXI had the same level cap for years and never suffered for it, though it had other issues that kept it back once WOW took over the market. Gear would last for years once you obtained it, though you might have two to five different peaces of gear for each slot for macro swaps for different spells or weapon skills. But it also had a more complex stat system than the one stat per class we have now.

A Pld could tank hits in Vit gear but swap to Str/acc for WS or when off tanking and approach the DPS of the DD classes though not quite get there due to JA differences. Or keep mind gear on hand for heals and soloing as Pld/rdm for stoneskin. Or int gear for... Ok so there where some things that didn't work.

A grind like the relics would have felt worthwhile in that kind of system, in this it's just a glamour.

Now, this game has a lot more dungeon/raids than FFXI had so there is an argument to be had that gear needs to be made obsolete to make them rewarding, but a more complex stat system would at least make them last longer.

[Awful]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XvsT6RCLUM

Basically this thread summed up

[cammi]

So people being able to buy a different colored weapon that's lower in stats beats the one you got while it was the in thing lower your prize? Really? You still have it and it still looks different. So tell me how the new ones devalue the one you have? Please I would love to know. Cause heres the thing .... they don't. You can still be a little snow flake with a weapon that I'm sure alot of people have anyway. You're not the only one man. Live life, there's better things to do then cry over a weapon skin that everyone can get.

[RyuSaarva]

umm. you can get 10 tokens in 1 day from duty finder, the crafted weapon is far harder to get since it actually needs a rare drop.

[Terribad]

Well, yeah. Just release a new raid that doesn't drop better gear. People would still run that, right? :P

Each patch doesn't have to have a new raid. They can release an actual raid instead of these "turns" and have people try that for x amount of months (whatever the community is happy with) or whatever. There's no rule that there has to be a new raid every 3 months.