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    QuinRaines's Avatar
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    Quin Raines
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    Ragnarok
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    that's right. but WAR is considered to be the OT because WAR + WAR is not really a good combo and PLD and DRK are both better in the MT, than the OT spot ^^
    I personally disagree about PLD, depending on the circumstances. Shield Oath is an absolute burden and hinders tank damage much more than Grit and Defiance do. While looking at damage ideals tanks should be stance dancing regardless, however I feel that PLD works better as an OT in a WAR/PLD comp.

    Unchained opener into deliverance is much less lost dps than Shield Oath opener would bring.

    Also, considering how often busters and other incoming damage is magic, PLDs block and half their defensive CDs become rendered useless. It all depends on the fight, a purely physical fight such as A7S PLD kicks ass in the MT spot. But in most other fights, in my opinion, it is a burden in that spot.
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    Sweetgrass's Avatar
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    Elated Moogle'maestro
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaptin_Bluddflagg View Post
    1)Warrior tanks. Boring.
    Stopped reading there. It's widely regarded as the most solidly-designed and effective tank class in the game, where you got this from is very odd.
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    Gregor Krado
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetgrass View Post
    Stopped reading there. It's widely regarded as the most solidly-designed and effective tank class in the game, where you got this from is very odd.
    Good thing you did! Opinions differ.
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    Altair Ibn-la'ahad
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 60
    Hey, new player here. I'm close to unlocking DK and i'm bored with Bard a bit. Is there any good guide for newbie like me, completely explains how DK should play in dungeons, skills and raids. Full detailed guide would be great, thanks.
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    Krystalan Deathgiver
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by gastovski View Post
    Hey, new player here. I'm close to unlocking DK and i'm bored with Bard a bit. Is there any good guide for newbie like me, completely explains how DK should play in dungeons, skills and raids. Full detailed guide would be great, thanks.
    Before you go running off to be a drk, you should go level gld to 22 for provoke at the very least (provoke is a must-have for any tank class), and you'll eventually want mrd to 26 for mercy stroke. While boring, learning the basics of tanking on a sub 30 class will help when you level drk.
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    Altair Ibn-la'ahad
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgiver View Post
    Before you go running off to be a drk, you should go level gld to 22 for provoke at the very least (provoke is a must-have for any tank class), and you'll eventually want mrd to 26 for mercy stroke. While boring, learning the basics of tanking on a sub 30 class will help when you level drk.
    I just went to ishgard first time then started as gladiator. That is exactly what will i do but getting mercy stroke could be challenging and pretty boring for me.
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    Aethys Aeon
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    Goblin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by gastovski View Post
    I just went to ishgard first time then started as gladiator. That is exactly what will i do but getting mercy stroke could be challenging and pretty boring for me.
    Hmm... Mercy Stroke I would say is more personal preference. while 200 potency is nice, I feel it's just not as "used" as something like Bloodbath, Convalescence, or even Foresight. I would consider holding off on Mercy Stroke if MRD is just that terrible to play for you- though level 8 for Bloodbath is very much useful to DRK (just... don't use it with Unleash. Unleash doesn't work with Bloodbath). you can work on level 26 later- it will also be easier and likely less boring once you understand the role better.

    I would also point out that, While required for raiding/trial mechanics, Provoke is on a 40 second cooldown. It's main use in the learning process/in standard dungeons is to snap-aggro from a DPS or ranged- followed by a Shield lob or other aggro booster. It's nice to have in your back-pocket while learning, but don't feel TOO pressured to have it early on. Get it eventually(since it IS required later), but try not to rely on it while you're learning. It's also not your ranged pull. It's cooldown coupled with it's actual mechanics make it a very, very poor choice as an initiation tool
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    J'majha Tyata
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Race really doesn't make any difference whatsoever. All race does is give you like a 3 to 5 point or so difference in starting stats. I'm an item level 234 white mage and I have over 1200 mind. I'm absolutely not missing the 4 extra mind I'd have got from going Keeper of the Moon instead of Seeker of the Sun. Once you get past the really low levels race is purely cosmetic. It's a necessary evil in a game where you can switch classes any time you want.
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