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    Sophia ex help please

    I've just started learning this fight. Watched the vid and read what I could. The first party I've been in seemed to get stuck on the adds. I know the kill order 2nd, 3rd, then first. I know 2nd has a confusion move that you need to look away from. 3rd I need help with. I have been zombified by it, but don't know if I can avoid it (no I'm not dead), plus it seems to drop ice aoes randomly in the middle, can this be controlled? I couldn't quite tell if it was aimed at the tank or random party member. I know to stand behind it to avoid the rav like attack. Then the last add... I understand that it targets one player and everyone else should stand between that player and it. But then we all seem to get stunned and either die, or can't move for the scales. I'd appreciate any clarification or advice
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Don't even bother trying to stack on the paladin's line AoE. Everyone just lets the person targetted tank it and get zombified, you'll be fine if the scholar/noct ast isn't awful and puts shields up.
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    Everyone else should stand there, but everyone is almost impossible so nobody should stand there so that only one player gets the zombie. It will follow the group so it should survive the balance. It's much better that way.

    The ice is spawned under the 3rd add so it can be moved away from the mid.
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    The main reason why the Party Finder is not working for the harder content and so many groups disband after few wipes is caused by the players who ignore the comments.

    Getting to the phase XYZ once does not mean you are ready to join parties to do XYZ.

    Parties should spend most of the time doing the phase that is written in the comment not trying to get there.

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    That's why guides aren't perfect.
    Don't stack for the 1st Demiurge's rush, just let one person take the hit and kite them to the edge.
    Also, don't tank the 3rd Demiurge in the center of the arena.
    Oh, and stand directly behind it once it casts Gnostic Rant. That's all.
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    The ice AOE from the Third Demiurge isn't random. The player tanking it should be tanking it off to one side to begin with while players kill the Second Demiurge, then move it away once the AOE is dropped so that players can comfortably DPS it and stand out of the way (behind it) for Gnostic Rant.

    And yes, mostly the strategy is to let the targeted player eat the line AOE and get zombified. Your healers should have plenty of time to heal you and then shield the party for tilts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aivi_lo View Post
    I've just started learning this fight. Watched the vid and read what I could. The first party I've been in seemed to get stuck on the adds. I know the kill order 2nd, 3rd, then first. I know 2nd has a confusion move that you need to look away from. 3rd I need help with. I have been zombified by it, but don't know if I can avoid it (no I'm not dead)
    Dying is what causes the zombification to occur. You won't think you died because your HP is still fairly high, but that's what does it. So technically anything during the add phase that would normally KO you will make you a zombie.

    Infusion, which is the Line AoE you're talking about, does a ton of damage, so zombification is a guarantee unless everyone's stacked. But as it's been stated, sacrificing the lone target of the attack is the better option, since risking multiple zombies in that phase isn't worth it.

    Also be careful when first attacking the PLD (the add which uses Infusion), because it uses Directional Parry buffs that will knock you back (much like Ravana's Seeing attacks) and put a Vulnerability Up stack on you. Usually not a problem when the other adds are dealt with first (he stops using it before Infusion), but sometimes he'll still have it up when you first engage and you won't know which direction is safe to attack.
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    To add to Andevom's post, do NOT use AoE skills while the 1st and 3rd Demiurges are grouped up. You are just asking to get nailed with the 1st's directional parry, as it deflects all attacks from whichever sides it shields, even AoEs like Elixir Field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteltain View Post
    To add to Andevom's post, do NOT use AoE skills while the 1st and 3rd Demiurges are grouped up. You are just asking to get nailed with the 1st's directional parry, as it deflects all attacks from whichever sides it shields, even AoEs like Elixir Field.
    Didn't think about the elixir field part, want to thank you ahead of time since my MNK is going in next week.
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    their 3 big skills are hp based so you'll only see them once a piece

    for second guy we just have a melee dps tank him and burn him down and look away when the gaze attack comes

    third guy should be pulled to the edge by a tank, the line attacks he does are easily avoidable, the circle aoe around himself leaves the ice patch, after the ice patch it should be safe to bring him back to middle then just everyone stack on his backside for gnostic rant.

    first guy is just don't hit his shielded sides (even with aoe and ranged attacks) and let the person he targets with infusion be zombified, it doesn't really matter and doing the mechanic by stacking risks people getting thrown off the sides. My group just tanks him near the spot we stack for sophia's big attack after the adds die
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    Thank you all for your help. I'll try again today
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