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    Cherub's Avatar
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    Miasma Eschaton
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    What is deciding being a Casual/Mid/Hard-core player? Playtime or content played?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherub View Post
    What is deciding being a Casual/Mid/Hard-core player? Playtime or content played?
    I dunno. It changes depending on who you ask, when you ask it and when they were born to what games they play and don't play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherub View Post
    What is deciding being a Casual/Mid/Hard-core player? Playtime or content played?
    It's incredibly muddled, really. Never even heard the term "mid-core player" before FFXIV.

    I always thought a casual player is a player who, well...plays casually! With casual being defined as (Quoting Wikipedia):
    "Happening by chance.
    Coming without regularity; occasional or incidental.
    Employed irregularly.
    Careless.
    Happening or coming to pass without design.
    Informal, relaxed.
    Designed for informal or everyday use."

    So, I take from that casual players are low dedication players with an irregular gaming schedule - sometimes more, sometimes less. Not the kind of player who can commit to set schedules. Most likely using gaming as a side activity and likely to be found listening to music in the background and playing multiple games simultaneously, picking a random one they currently feel like for their sessions.

    Hardcore in turn are very dedicated players. Gaming is a main activity and has a firm priority slot in the daily timetable in which they don't want to get disturbed from playing. These aren't just doing what they feel like, they have plans what to do on which day and have often planned in advance to prepare. They also typically play more than the average player, because they dedicate more of their free time to it and often don't play more than one game at a time in order not to spread themselves too thin.

    That's my take on it. Mid-core is somewhere in the middle I suppose? I wager you can set "Casual" and "Hardcore" as endpoints of a dedication spectrum and then go along to stop anywhere to get a more realistic picture.
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Well I don't know what kind of player I am since I currently done A9S (The only alex savage I've cleared), done Sophia (Or any kind or primal), done meld crafter to 4 stars minimum (But still need seafood stew because control material is so expensive), love frontline, and really into glamour.
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    Kiriah Aishi
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    Okay, check it.

    The incentive is e-peen. You need to get better gear to make it bigger. Once it's as big as possible, you whack filthy plebians across the face with it.

    Of course, since both you and I are generally in the same category, both being filthy plebians, we get whacked across the face a lot. You get used to it after awhile.
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    Gaddes Ronfaure
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by NefarioCall View Post
    I'm a mid-core player. That's what i am. I come and i go from the game. When i do play it, i focus on things that will still be valuable after i disappear for a couple months.
    You're a casual player, not really a mid-core. I believe general consensus is that someone mid-core would've at least dabbled in raiding or EX fights for a fair chunk of time at some point. Yes, you may grind jobs or dungeons etc, but those are usually regarded as easier things, thus the casual level.

    But apart from that, it's funny that you say you focus on things that'll be valuable after several months, when in reality pretty much nothing is valuable in this game even maybe 2-3 months down the line since there is far too much continual upping of iLvls and how quickly gear becomes obsolete, whether it's easy weekly tome gear or raiding gear or whatever. I think that's really the thing that hurts this game the most, and actually something that made me stop doing dedicated raiding as well...
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    "Well, it's no Vana'diel, but it'll have to do..."


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    Evangela Monterossa
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    I used to do BCoB before the nerf. It's not too difficult for me but it really takes a lot of time and efforts. Doing that at work is more than enough for me. When I come home I want to relax. If I have to feel like I'm working in a video game, I'd rather not playing it.

    Playing games should be entertaining, not practicing 3-4 hours a day for 2 weeks in order to defeat one boss in the game. It's ridiculous. If I have to spend that much time and efforts, I'd rather do more works in real life so that I can get money for it.
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    Xiao Tianfeng
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    I used to do BCoB before the nerf. It's not too difficult for me but it really takes a lot of time and efforts. Doing that at work is more than enough for me. When I come home I want to relax. If I have to feel like I'm working in a video game, I'd rather not playing it.

    Playing games should be entertaining, not practicing 3-4 hours a day for 2 weeks in order to defeat one boss in the game. It's ridiculous. If I have to spend that much time and efforts, I'd rather do more works in real life so that I can get money for it.
    It really depends if you enjoy the learning process or not. If you don't enjoy that, it'll just feel like work for sure.
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    Pasquale Omega
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    Quote Originally Posted by NefarioCall View Post

    I've always been confused by this design choice by the devs. They want to make this game accessible to the mid-cores, and yet... the vertical cap itself is anti-mid core player. It's a pro-hard core system, because the only players who can ever be able to play the end game will be those who never stop playing... The rest of us, who do come and go, will always come back to see what little best gear we could work for, become 5 cents on the dollar. So why work for it at all?
    .[/B]
    LOL man you have usually 4/6 months to reach the Max ilv gear do you think that's not enough time xD? Also at some point midway during patches thry introduces the towers where you can get free stuffs to upgrade your equip.
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    Xizzy Azenith
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    Zalera
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    Monk Lv 80
    Midcore was birthed because of the extremes FFXIV built with having brain dead dungeons that you can probably beat by spamming 1 skill.

    To an instant jump of savage and EX.

    There are people who feel things are either too easy or too hard for them. And they just sit there waiting for "what's just right"



    Anyways this system yes is nice to new comers but it also creates a system where you have people who are thinking how to I have maximum things with least time wasted? So they make horizontal progression from glamour and mounts. And think why fight that monster when I can also beat it easier 3 months from now.
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