Do the Legacy Servers Have an Elitism Problem?

[CrystalRainbow]

Hear on Balmung my FC has over the last 3 years. invited a few people that where not the right fit for us because they where elitist.

We are currently a laid back family of about 20 active members.

[Radiosuitcase]

Preface, shout out to the GM who handled my support ticket (great customer service compared to any F2P MMO).

So found an OT from a legacy server in DF that refused to do A12N and immediately AFK after seeing the gear of te MT (the OT claimed the MT's IL244 was too low). I'm thinking, wow you got to be kidding considering my own personal experience: I cleared both A12N and Soph EX with the bare minimum of IL 235. I got to level 60 for the first time last week. Now cleared Soph EX a bunch more times (big shout out to the pug group on Gilgamesh), got soph EX bow, good to go.

But if I were around people like this OT, players like me would have never gotten the chance because of a quick inspection pre-start and then a "AFK; IL too low." This to me begs the question, do the Legacy servers have an elitism problem? Being one of the original servers likely lends to a lot of hardcore/day one players that have these undesirable traits.

No. They don't.

[Ametrine]

So, it's considered griefing when you refuse to kick a player that wants to leave?

There is a part of me that smells bullshit, and another that kind of understands that this is a possible form of abuse. I mean, if you request a kick for any reason, I think you should be kicked.

For example, I was once running SV when my parents suddenly pulled in the driveway. They needed help unloading the car, so I told my group to go ahead and kick me as it may take a good 10 or more minutes to help them put stuff away and I didn't want to make them wait that long.

They agreed.

I understand this situation is different in that the tank didn't feel the team was geared enough and wanted out, while the rest disagreed. It's just on the GM to decide who was holding who hostage.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

It's 30 minutes for leaving a fully formed party. If members are missing there's no penalty.
Being vote kicked gives you no penalty. Vote abandon gives the entire party no penalty.
Kicking someone gives you a 4 hour cooldown before you can kick again.

I meant from the start of the instance, 5 minutes until you can initate a vote kick, and 15 before you can initate a vote abandon.

[Canadane]

I meant from the start of the instance, 5 minutes until you can initate a vote kick, and 15 before you can initate a vote abandon.

Ah, yeah... then you're entirely correct!

[SublimeIbanez]

No.

He's being a douche, kick him. Douche's are everywhere no matter the server.

[Sainya]

Yes, they do.

[HyoMinPark]

Elitism happens everywhere. Even on my server, which is usually known for being nice and laid back, has "elitists," and I make a habit of not dealing with them. Like if I see one has a PF up for something, I'd rather just make my own than join theirs, even if mine takes longer to fill, or never fills at all. I've ran into them from many different servers: some from legacy, some from low pop servers, some from high pop servers. They're everywhere, not just legacy servers.

That guy was just a prick. And kicking him probably would have better. Though a part of me hates to see him get off without the 30 minute penalty that he definitely deserves. Normally, if someone in a party demands we kick them, I tell them they are more than welcome to leave and enjoy their penalty. I don't think it's fair for them to force a party to kick so they can jump right back into DF and harass another party.

[DamianWayne]

Balmung is full of it.

I main Ninja, am level 60. ilevel 235.

I join a party finder for Sophia Extreme, only to be kicked out for not having "Blood for Blood."

"No offense, but we need people who are actually going to take this seriously."

So I sent a joke of a tell to them saying "It's cuz I'm black isn't it?"

Then they took it seriously......

[KarstenS]

I join a party finder for Sophia Extreme, only to be kicked out for not having "Blood for Blood."

Sorry to say. But I would kick you for the same reason out of a party for endgame conten t like the current extreme primal or Savage. The correct cross class skills are important to run a proper damage rotation.

I'm pretty shure the real reason you got kicked was for dealing very low damage.

Check out yourself and go to the Sophia traning dummy in dravanian hinterland.