Do the Legacy Servers Have an Elitism Problem?

[Sainya]

Yes, they do.

[Canadane]

I meant from the start of the instance, 5 minutes until you can initate a vote kick, and 15 before you can initate a vote abandon.

Ah, yeah... then you're entirely correct!

[HyoMinPark]

Elitism happens everywhere. Even on my server, which is usually known for being nice and laid back, has "elitists," and I make a habit of not dealing with them. Like if I see one has a PF up for something, I'd rather just make my own than join theirs, even if mine takes longer to fill, or never fills at all. I've ran into them from many different servers: some from legacy, some from low pop servers, some from high pop servers. They're everywhere, not just legacy servers.

That guy was just a prick. And kicking him probably would have better. Though a part of me hates to see him get off without the 30 minute penalty that he definitely deserves. Normally, if someone in a party demands we kick them, I tell them they are more than welcome to leave and enjoy their penalty. I don't think it's fair for them to force a party to kick so they can jump right back into DF and harass another party.

[DamianWayne]

Balmung is full of it.

I main Ninja, am level 60. ilevel 235.

I join a party finder for Sophia Extreme, only to be kicked out for not having "Blood for Blood."

"No offense, but we need people who are actually going to take this seriously."

So I sent a joke of a tell to them saying "It's cuz I'm black isn't it?"

Then they took it seriously......

[Ametrine]

Yeah.... I couldn't get away from Balmung fast enough after finding out how nasty it was in raid tier after working my ass off to get on that level.

Although, now I'm on a super small and chill server with no raid tier, so it's another can of worms.

[DamianWayne]

I used to be on Gilgamesh and that was pretty chill for me, then a friend suggested I transfer to Balmung, so I did and I regret it every day having to deal with fussy elitists that probably think their shits don't smell bad with how much they ride their own ego when it comes to the game. I never had these problems with any other games I play like Star Wars The Old Republic.

[Seig345]

Just wanna say half the kick I get out of this game is helping others. Also, I typically clear raid content waaaaaaay past due, never been on the bleeding edge of ilvl, I swap between two characters on the same server which slows my progress even further, and I'm a legacy player on Sargatanas with both characters created at 1.0 2010 launch.

Unless I'm just an outlier, it sounds like you just ran into an Ascian whole

[Auteur]

Maybe I'm overweighing my experiences on Gilgamesh but it's definitely not a good server (happens also to be legacy) for new/fresh players. Wish I knew beforehand that Gilgamesh became the unofficial "hardcore" server because it's just stressful and tense for any new person here. For example, I joined an A9S "progression" party that turned out to be a bunch of people from a static. After the group started, I was the only one put on notice that if mistakes are made the party would "reform."

Objectively, obviously static members won't kick each other on performance grounds even if it's clear they're the ones at fault. What sickens me is that this is the attitude on Gilgamesh towards progression parties, which to me is erroneous; putting so much blame or spotlight on one person is justified for "farm" or "clear only" parties. To me, this supports the assertion that the FF14 raiding community, especially the hardcore segment, has dug its own grave: they only want to fight over the same small pool of "exp" players instead of branching out and trying to develop a deeper talent pool for sustainable success.

[AnaviAnael]

Maybe I'm overweighing my experiences on Gilgamesh but it's definitely not a good server (happens also to be legacy)

Gilgamesh is not legacy.

[KarstenS]

Elitism is an attitude, not a skill.

As I said. Its not the same. But many others don't get the difference or don't get it, that there is a difference at all. For them, both are the same.