Yokai Event

[Kallera]

Once I heard what would be involved to get the items and the RNG that it would take, I resolved to not even start the quest. I didn't have much interest in Yokai, but this event would have made me needlessly angry, just as every other Atma-like FATE grind has done. Obsessive FATE grinding combined with RNG is this game at its worst, and I did not want to convey to the bean counters that I "enjoyed" the yokai event by completing it.

The next time Level 5 comes out with a game that sounds fun at first, I'll remember this, and their twisted idea of "fun".

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Once I heard what would be involved to get the items and the RNG that it would take, I resolved to not even start the quest. I didn't have much interest in Yokai, but this event would have made me needlessly angry, just as every other Atma-like FATE grind has done. Obsessive FATE grinding combined with RNG is this game at its worst, and I did not want to convey to the bean counters that I "enjoyed" the yokai event by completing it.

The next time Level 5 comes out with a game that sounds fun at first, I'll remember this, and their twisted idea of "fun".

All jokes aside, what irked me most about Yokai wasn't the grind, but the sheer lack of creativity. What little story there was for why the Yokai appeared was dull, the game cared far more about "your new friends" then I ever did and it boiled down to do the same old fates from ARR. Oh! But not those two zones we know y'all love to farm for EXP. Even if they added something silly like completing a number of fates spawned a a hunt-like Yokai we get to murder. And it drops more legendary medals. Events like this I'm just like... "If you're not going to even bother. Can't you have the design team make some new FF related minions instead? I'd rather just grind for those."

[Elim]

I skipped on the yokai event because I still have PTSD from the orignal zodiac weapon grind. Never again.

[Welsper59]

I skipped on the yokai event because I still have PTSD from the orignal zodiac weapon grind. Never again.

I'd imagine a good number of people that skipped it feel the same. Honestly, I don't mind the thoughtless grinds, like with FATEs. I'm just one of the rare ones that actually gauge my own interest and realistic enjoyment to time I could spend doing/playing other things (on or off XIV). Spent most of my 20's playing MMORPGs and trying to collect/do all the things, so I think I've hit my lifetime quota with wasting time doing things for the sake of it, regardless of regret in the end.

[Train88]

My gripe wasn't as much with yo-kai as with ff14 RNG in general.

I would have done the last 3 weapons if i was getting a paced medal input. I was not.

When i bring up RNG in ff14 people mostly tell me it fits the marked averages but only on multiple thousand pool statistics. When i try to craft one or two HQ thing and i get ridiculous luck, i am not going to try a thousand more times just to see if it meets the marked %. Also i regularly get streaks which are way off the marked averages.

I will do the world a favor and post my random function:

/* Random(23); will give you 0-23 with a fair chance to 0 and 23
FALSE
{0,0 0,1 0,2 0,3 0,4}=0
{0,5 ... 1,4}=1
{1,5 1,6 1,7 1,8 1,9 2,0}=2

TRUE
{0,0 0,1 0,2 0,3 0,4}=0
{0,5 ... 1,4}=1
{1,5 ... 2,4}=2
{2,5 2,6 2,7 2,8 2,9 3,0}=0 */

function Random(limit){
value = Math.round(Math.random() * (limit + 1));
if(value == (limit + 1))
value = 0;
return value;
}

[Train88]

The sad thing is the code most likely already has a random function. Editing it would take under 30 sec but it's 30 sec they wouldn't be bothered to take.

This change would not impact large number random. But small number random are heavily affected.

How would you feel playing against an identical faced coin toss?

[Aillith]

I have to agree with those that said they felt a bit disoriented after grinding out yokai.

I by no means grinded the whole thing stright, but all my 'downtown' between roulettes went to helping get me and my partner through it.

After doing this for a month - once we were done we had no idea what we had been doing originally and questioned the point of even logging back in.

It really broke ff14 game immersion for me.

[Alberel]

It's interesting reading people speaking of feeling disoriented after completing the event. I had a similar feeling. For a couple of weeks I assigned myself a daily quota of medals to acquire until I got all the weapons, and my daily routine in game essentially revolved around the Yokai event. Once I finally finished everything I was at a complete loss for what to do. I couldn't even remember where I was at in my various other activities in game. I ended up just giving up and not playing much at all until 3.4 rolled around.

[Gemina]

It's interesting reading people speaking of feeling disoriented after completing the event. I had a similar feeling. For a couple of weeks I assigned myself a daily quota of medals to acquire until I got all the weapons, and my daily routine in game essentially revolved around the Yokai event. Once I finally finished everything I was at a complete loss for what to do. I couldn't even remember where I was at in my various other activities in game. I ended up just giving up and not playing much at all until 3.4 rolled around.

I found it interesting as well, and went through the same thing. I even joked about it with my FC saying that after yokai was over, I would lose all purpose. I had a daily quota as well, and would feel guilty if it was not met, or if I decided not to log on for that day. Once it was done, it definitely felt like something was 'missing', but it didn't last long and I got back into the normal swing, or I rather should say: what I was doing before yokai.

Though I wonder where my progression in the game would be at this point if not for the event, I don't dwell on it much. I don't regret the time I allocated towards completing it, especially since slow and steady progression is kind of how I work. :P

[Alberel]

I found it interesting as well, and went through the same thing. I even joked about it with my FC saying that after yokai was over, I would lose all purpose. I had a daily quota as well, and would feel guilty if it was not met, or if I decided not to log on for that day. Once it was done, it definitely felt like something was 'missing', but it didn't last long and I got back into the normal swing, or I rather should say: what I was doing before yokai.

Though I wonder where my progression in the game would be at this point if not for the event, I don't dwell on it much. I don't regret the time I allocated towards completing it, especially since slow and steady progression is kind of how I work. :P

Yeah, I don't regret it at all either. I just found the psychological effect of doing it to be fascinating to observe. I think it was the combination of grinding with a time limit that caused a lot of people to spend more time on it than they otherwise normally would have. People became so focused on it to get it out of the way that they lost sight of everything else they enjoyed about the game. If this isn't a perfect example of the consequences of using grind to compensate for lazy game design I don't know what is.