DF Penalty from withdrawing from a party in progress should be removed

[Dogempire]

Removed because reasons

edit: seriously, stop responding, I removed the thread content

[Bixillarla]

No thank you. You want to leave and not help the party you signed up for then you deserve a penalty.

[Yallaid]

shouldn't you just un-check 'in-progress duty' if you keep getting shoved towards the same 70-minutes-in group? I don't think you should be able to play roulette with the in-progress queue looking for a 'good' match, that kind of defeats the purpose imo.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Go queue with friends if you want to cherry pick your duties.

[Ametrine]

No.

If you have issues with dropping into a DF that has a good amount of time into it, uncheck the "enter in progress" button. I understand not wanting to deal with a disastrous group, but nothing is forcing you to take the chance in the first place.

[Pyretta_Blaze]

I usually pop in, ask what happened. If the answer was they finally kicked the couple who stopped for ERP every pull I might stay. If I find it to be an awful group I might urge to vote abandon/ask for a kick. Otherwise I would just bail eat my penalty. In DF you get what you get and you deal with it. Don't pick 'in progress' if you aren't willing to deal with a party that probably had problems so someone left.

This made me chuckle tho, considering.

Make your own party if you don't like the fact that sometimes PF will match you up with someone who will just end up being dead weight you have to carry.

[Deus-ExMachina]

Well the OP is reffering to get punished for declining an invite for an in progress group which i kind of understand since you do not get punished if you join in and then immediatly leave afterwards because there is no punishment for leaving in progress groups if you are the one who joined.

[Fynlar]

If you have issues with dropping into a DF that has a good amount of time into it, uncheck the "enter in progress" button.

This.

The inprog option is a potentially double-edged sword. You might end up being able to skip a good portion of the duty and still get credit for completion, or you might end up with a craptastic group (that likely warranted the departure of whoever you end up replacing) that ends up taking more of your time than normal. That's the gamble you take with it.

Nobody's forcing you to use the option, though.

Another thing worth noting is that if you join an inprog and the party is still incomplete (like, you hop in to Wiping City and you see your party is 3/8 members), you are permitted to just leave as soon as you see that and you won't be penalized (penalty only applies to the person that leaves a full group)

Well the OP is reffering to get punished for declining an invite for an in progress group which i kind of understand since you do not get punished if you join in and then immediatly leave afterwards because there is no punishment for leaving in progress groups if you are the one who joined.

This is not true. You only do not get penalized if the group is still not full.

Penalty for ditching a group is solely dependent on whether or not the group had all of its members. If you join inprog and the party is back up to 4/4 as a result, you will be penalized if you leave.

[Gemina]

No it shouldn't be removed. It's there to prevent exactly what you're proposing. You are aware of the penalty, therefore your choices are to accept it, or get through the instance. Without the penalty, far too many players would leave on a moments notice for who knows how many reasons why.

I suggest you try to help in anyway you can to get a struggling group through an instance. If it's truly a hornets nest, then just accept the penalty. It's nowhere as bad as being grouped up with a bunch of jerks.

[Paladinleeds]

I must admit, I'm of the opposite feeling. Personally, I believe the penalty isn't enough (it should be say a 72 hour penalty, no, I'm serious). Oh and this includes getting kicked from a duty (will be lifted if you can prove to the GMs that you were kicked through no fault of your own). And if you go offline for a decent period of time in duty it auto-kicks and applies the penalty. Maybe also make it so if you go offline multiple times, after going offline for the n'th time, auto-kicked and penalised. Same for if you're AFK for a period of time. As well as it being made clear to the group through the message system if someone is refusing to engage in the battle with mobs, you should kick them for AFK.