Can we please have a option to join in-progress dungeons only?

[CaptainLagbeard]

FC-member was earlier stuck at Aery last boss, missing both tank and healer.

Three FC-members tried to go in as replacements (one at a time), only to see all three of them end up in completely new parties, even though they queued for "in-progress duty". Shouldn't that system try to prioritize those who are already inside, just being bored and waiting for replacements? Currently it's just creating more in-progress duties with missing roles instead of filling them.

At the very least they could add in an option to invite people from your friends list or FC if someone leaves and you need a replacement...

[DevilsDontFly]

I think that should only be a default thing for healers and tanks. Nothing is more frustrating than you wanting to level a DPS, waiting 15 minutes in que to join a last boss battle. Healers and tanks get instaque anyways so it's not a big loss for us, but for people who main/want to play/level DPS jobs, sometimes the "join in progress" thing doesn't offer many benefits.

[Fynlar]

This won't happen because it will kill queue times for people starting "fresh" duties.

[Fynlar]

At the very least they could add in an option to invite people from your friends list or FC if someone leaves and you need a replacement...

I'm sure they only reason they haven't added something like that in would be the fact that it would encourage undue vote dismisses in order to try to sneak friends in at the very end of a duty :/

[CaptainLagbeard]

I'm sure they only reason they haven't added something like that in would be the fact that it would encourage undue vote dismisses in order to try to sneak friends in at the very end of a duty :/

Well, abusing the vote kick is punishable according to the support stuff in-game... So if people did do that, they might start throwing around temporary bans.

[Niwashi]

Well, abusing the vote kick is punishable according to the support stuff in-game... So if people did do that, they might start throwing around temporary bans.

That would only work if the players abusing the feature first told the player they're going to kick that they're kicking them to get a friend in. If it's just a kick without explanation, the only player who would report it has nothing useful to report. Just saying "I got kicked and don't know why" won't get any action from the GMs. (Which is why it already gets abused so much. There's really no enforcement of the supposed "reasons" for kicking.)

I like Cinno's idea, though. Excluding this invite option after a kick but allowing it after someone leaves or disconnects would be useful at least a lot of times (if not always) and wouldn't be nearly as exploitable.

[CaptainLagbeard]

That would only work if the players abusing the feature first told the player they're going to kick that they're kicking them to get a friend in. If it's just a kick without explanation, the only player who would report it has nothing useful to report. Just saying "I got kicked and don't know why" won't get any action from the GMs. (Which is why it already gets abused so much. There's really no enforcement of the supposed "reasons" for kicking.)

I like Cinno's idea, though. Excluding this invite option after a kick but allowing it after someone leaves or disconnects would be useful at least a lot of times (if not always) and wouldn't be nearly as exploitable.

I'm pretty sure getting kicked without anyone saying anything is a valid thing to report... Specially if nothing happened to justify a kick in the first place.
The biggest problem with the reports really is in my opinion that you don't know what server the other people are from and I don't know if GMs can access logs regarding it all to find that out.

Also, removing the option to invite after kicking would also help very much to stop that.

[Lukha]

I'm really baffled by the lack of a way to invite people to join an in-progress party. It just seems like a really basic QoL issue.

If it's for some reason not possible to directly invite due to the way instances are handled, you would think their matching algorithm would at the bare minimum prioritize filling in-progress parties waiting for more people over putting you in a new, empty queue while your FC mate is waiting for someone to join them.

[Aivi_lo]

Or else have a way of inviting someone specific to the party when you're left short handed on an in-progress run. (That would help both situations like this where you're trying to change jobs and re-join, and also cases where someone asks a friend or FC-mate to come help out after someone else leaves.)

Kicking unlucky party members then getting in your friends for the loot may be a hazard here.

[Cinno]

Kicking unlucky party members then getting in your friends for the loot may be a hazard here.

That's a simple solution as well. If someone leaves the party, it could pop up asking if you want to invite someone from your friends list. But if they get kicked, you have to just wait for someone to join in progress. (Maybe make an exception for kicking players that are offline or disconnected..)

Not a perfect solution but it gets around the abuse.