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  1. #11
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    Valaska's Avatar
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    Valaska Svendsen
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    Lamia
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    Dragoon Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by ZhaneX View Post
    SMN as you really can just apply your DoTs then sit back and do nothing while the egi auto-attacks for you.
    DRG as they only have two easy to remember combos that deal good damage so long as you remember to alternate every so often.
    Ehhh Dragoon is a bit more difficult than say Monk and a couple others, you need to remember to do HT/Phlem regularly and without interrupting your attacks, keep BoTD up, know when to and when not to use jump. If you make a mistake as Dragoon it is much less forgiving than Monk for instance, as monk you just... Keep punching up the combo anyways, Dragoon... Well you now gotta think is it worth starting your combo over to apply disembowl and CT, or do you continue with the FT then apply after and chain it with HT?

    There's a lot that goes into maxing your DPS as a Dragoon.
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  2. #12
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ChameleonMS View Post
    BRD - A big opener then Iron Jaws, Straight Shot and Heavy Shot the rest of way. No positional attacks because you are ranged.
    If you don't have a WAR and if your healers don't run out of MP and your dps not out of TP. Otherwise you have to pay attention to that too and depending on the fight, BRD is not the easiest.
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  3. #13
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ZhaneX View Post
    SMN as you really can just apply your DoTs then sit back and do nothing while the egi auto-attacks for you.
    and thats exactly the reason why we have so many bad smns & schs out there... "let the pet do your job aye"... >__>
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  4. #14
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    Xelious's Avatar
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    Character
    Lei Xuo
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    As a monk main, I find it pretty relaxing to play Black Mage. You are ranged, have an infinite resource that isn't TP, Can make use of sprint to get out of AoE's quicker, only 1 DoT to manage, easy rotation, easy buff management, easy procs, Not many instant Offensive GCD's to manage to keep DPS and your cast times usually line up with the GCD. (unlike bard who's cast times are faster than the GCD which can feel really clunky at times) The only problem with black mage, is if the boss you are fighting hates you and decides to put a circle of death under your feet every time you try to dps.
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  5. #15
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    and thats exactly the reason why we have so many bad smns & schs out there... "let the pet do your job aye"... >__>
    Yeeeah I don't think it's a good idea to be in the mindset from the get go to not be manually using your pet. Caused me a lot of problems down the road when I hit 50 and started raiding down the road trying to learn.
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  6. #16
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    Alayna Lazriel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    This is a very simple answer. And it's every one of them.

    Thing is, everyone has different playstyles, strengths, weaknesses, etc. Maybe you prefer to be ranged to have a better awareness of the arena. Maybe you struggle with maintaining several DoTs, procs, and timers.

    So the answer is actually a question. Which DPS is easiest for you? Also, which do you enjoy playing the most? The one you enjoy the most is the one that you'll have the easiest time putting the extra effort to get better in. No one can tell you where you'll excel. Just have to try them out and find out which shtick is most compelling to you.
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    Character
    Torian Whyte
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    Zalera
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    Rogue Lv 60
    SMN is very easy, after really taking time to properly setup a go that on PS4 I can honestly say DRG is easier then MNK/NIN for me now
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ZhaneX View Post
    SMN as you really can just apply your DoTs then sit back and do nothing while the egi auto-attacks for you.
    Except you also have to be able to deal with the timing of Ruin III, Deathflare, and Tri-disaster in the 15 seconds you have Dreadwyrm Trance and keeping Aetherflow/Aethertrail Attunement up. Plus, you usually have to at least tell Gaurda when to use Contagion. Then there's the fact SMN is usually the group's go to res'er.

    My vote goes to BRD. Looking at the enemy's debuffs, our own procs, and the party's MP/TP isn't as hard as people as people make it out to be, especially with the right UI.
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    Last edited by Mimilu; 10-05-2016 at 02:59 AM.

  9. #19
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    Vermilion Rose
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    From hardest to easiest:

    1 - Machinist: have never played this one, but the idea that min maxing this class is hard as **** seems to be pretty unanimous.

    2 - BLM: not many buttons, but enochian is a complete nightmare to keep. Requires studying fights very carefully. Losing enochian is a harsh DPS loss. Most static class. Even when mastered, going blind into a fight can make you commit suicidal (eg. Seph EX). Doing flawless DPS with this thing on a fight that requires a lot of movement should net you an achievement. Extremely punishing.

    3 - DRG: lots of buttons, BotD timer, random positionals, OGCDs that lock you. The class is extremely overwhelming at first, but it loses all its complexity once you become familiar with the rotation (unlike the BLM which is always more exposed to random mechanics ******* them).

    4 - SMN: same issue with DRG. Lots of buttons at first, but once you muscle memory the priority system, the class is extremely mobile and no mechanics can really **** you up (other than festering an immune boss...but that's some nasty bad coincidence). Still, takes some time to learn, because of the awful amount of buttons that requires playing this class optimally and the added mana management difficulty this class has. You aren't a flawless SMN if you aren't using Ruin III outside your Dreadwyrm Trance when you have mana surplus.

    5 - BRD: Arguably easy, but not as easy as most people think. The class doesn't follow a strict GCD order (except for the opener), it's a complete whack-a-mole OGCD fest, and it can be pretty frenetic at times, when multiple OGCDs come up at the same time and there's very little room to weave them all. Also, must keep track of DOTs, not refreshing them with Iron Jaws is a DPS loss (though not a harsh one).

    6 - NIN: Can't say much about this one (level 0 rogue here), but I've heard it has a very flexible rotation, which is easy and forgiving too.

    7 - MNK: It's an easy version of the 2.0 MNK. Not only losing GL3 is much harder now due to form shift, even if you lose it during a long downtime, stacking five chakras for a free 330 potency attack + starting with instant GL due to form shift makes this class much more forgiving than it was in 2.0. 7 GCDs, and a pattern that is extremely set in stone. Very easy to become familiar with, and very easy to do extremely well. Once mastered, there's hardly anything that can screw you up, class is mobile and very noob friendly. Missing positionals doesn't punish your DPS much, but landing them is easy enough anyway.
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    Last edited by Gallus; 10-05-2016 at 06:28 PM.

  10. #20
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    Except you also have to be able to deal with the timing of Ruin III, Deathflare, and Tri-disaster in the 15 seconds you have Dreadwyrm Trance and keeping Aetherflow/Aethertrail Attunement up. Plus, you usually have to at least tell Gaurda when to use Contagion. Then there's the fact SMN is usually the group's go to res'er.
    +Shadowflare, Miasra and the proper use of Virus...

    But just let Ruda do her thing than everything is gonna be alright, aye

    Quote Originally Posted by Garotte14 View Post
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    No one can tell you where you'll excel. Just have to try them out and find out which shtick is most compelling to you.
    Aye, best bet is to try the different cls in palace of the dead... you'll get access to all job-skills pretty fast, really good way to try things out. =)
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    Last edited by Neela; 10-05-2016 at 05:20 PM.

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