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    I know this effects a tiny fraction of the population, but I am a gamer with low vision and I think I will never succeed at this quest.

    It's not broken, it's just f*ing inconsiderate.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by shava View Post
    I know this effects a tiny fraction of the population, but I am a gamer with low vision and I think I will never succeed at this quest.

    It's not broken, it's just f*ing inconsiderate.
    I can think of something that might help you but I need to run through the quest in NG+ to test it first. I'll come back to edit this post with the method if it works.

    It did work so hopefully it will work for you as well.

    When the Blade of Light appears to you the first time in the fight (about 20 seconds after the second fight starts), take a moment to mark it with a Sign (found in the Party menu). You can assign Signs to an empty hotbar space if you have one to make them easier to access during the fight. You might want to play with the Signs on a NPC or other object before you enter the duty to see which is most visible to you. Remember that there's going to be a lot of blue-white glowing around Alisaie so you'd want to pick one that stands out in that.

    Once the channel is completed, the Blade of Light and Sign will disappear but the Sign will still be on the Blade of Light when it reappears. Hopefully that will make it easier for you to find and target the Blade the second and third times in the fight.

    Try to stay away from Alisaie except when it's time to channel. Focus on killing the Devout and Ranger every time they're resurrected. Don't attack the other 3 before the first channel. After the first channel, kill the Knight after the Devout and Ranger are dead. Don't attack the Warrior and Magus. After the second channel, kill the Warrior (and possibly the Knight) once the Devout and Ranger are dead. If the Ranger begins to target Alisaie (you'll see a gold line appear between them), make it a priority. Dodge AoEs as needed.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 07-23-2022 at 10:22 AM.

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    Enkidoh Roux
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    It's not broken, but just has mechanics that are very difficult. The strategy for this duty works as others have mentioned, so unless you're trying to do it in gear that is too low ilevel, even if you're failing you should be able to pass it eventually, due to the Echo boost effect kicking in that should superpower your stats, and does stack if you're failing repeatedly and retrying it.

    Also, are you keeping the duty set as 'Normal' difficulty after failing it? There is nothing to gain keeping it on 'normal' if you're having trouble with this duty unless you're deliberately looking for a challenge. Set it to 'Very Easy' and it should help you also a great deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    I don't get why people are being so condescending about this quest.

    I know there's supposed to be a Blade of Light in front of Alisaie. I know that it has no physical body, and I have to click the name directly. I know that I need to defeat anybody who's aggro'd on me or her, or we won't be able to focus on channeling. And yet, even when I do that, there are times when the Blade of Light just...isn't there. How do I make it reappear so that I can continue interacting with it? It's so frustrating having the NPCs bark orders for me to do something I can't do because the item has not respawned yet. "GET UP ON THE HYDRA'S BACK, GET UP ON THE HYDRA'S BACK,' except the entire hydra has temporarily despawned.

    Like, do people realize it's possible to pay attention and adore this game and still have valid criticisms of encounter design? I'm not used to seeing the community behave so dismissively and throw some imagined 'fault' onto new players like they're doing in this thread.
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Densoro View Post
    I don't get why people are being so condescending about this quest.

    I know there's supposed to be a Blade of Light in front of Alisaie. I know that it has no physical body, and I have to click the name directly. I know that I need to defeat anybody who's aggro'd on me or her, or we won't be able to focus on channeling. And yet, even when I do that, there are times when the Blade of Light just...isn't there. How do I make it reappear so that I can continue interacting with it? It's so frustrating having the NPCs bark orders for me to do something I can't do because the item has not respawned yet. "GET UP ON THE HYDRA'S BACK, GET UP ON THE HYDRA'S BACK,' except the entire hydra has temporarily despawned.

    Like, do people realize it's possible to pay attention and adore this game and still have valid criticisms of encounter design? I'm not used to seeing the community behave so dismissively and throw some imagined 'fault' onto new players like they're doing in this thread.
    I know I am a necromancer for clearing palace solo, but you're a necromancer in your own right with posts being from 2+ years ago. I don't remember ever failing this quest nor am I going to go back and read a thread from over TWO YEARS AGO to understand why people are stuck.

    If you're failing, try again or lower the difficulty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Densoro View Post
    I don't get why people are being so condescending about this quest.

    I know there's supposed to be a Blade of Light in front of Alisaie. I know that it has no physical body, and I have to click the name directly. I know that I need to defeat anybody who's aggro'd on me or her, or we won't be able to focus on channeling. And yet, even when I do that, there are times when the Blade of Light just...isn't there. How do I make it reappear so that I can continue interacting with it? It's so frustrating having the NPCs bark orders for me to do something I can't do because the item has not respawned yet. "GET UP ON THE HYDRA'S BACK, GET UP ON THE HYDRA'S BACK,' except the entire hydra has temporarily despawned.

    Like, do people realize it's possible to pay attention and adore this game and still have valid criticisms of encounter design? I'm not used to seeing the community behave so dismissively and throw some imagined 'fault' onto new players like they're doing in this thread.
    As I recall the Blade of Light indeed isn't always on the screen, but only becomes available when it's actually scripted into the battle as needed, based on how the battle progresses and how you fill up the gauge (you can tell when it's now available when Alisaie says something like "lend me your aether" or something along those lines. That's when you have to stop what you're doing and focus on the Blade of Light - of course with Darklander and his flunkies snapping at your heels, this can be easier said than done.

    And yes, it's a very difficult battle, but it's not impossible - I failed three or four times myself until I finally realized what I was doing wrong (didn't actually notice the Blade of Light when it became available, and then couldn't click on it in time). Once I managed to get a handle on that mechanic, I eventually passed it.

    So don't despair, the fight is hard, but use the advice that is given, and the knowledge that the Blade isn't always on the screen but will become available at scripted points in the fight and that is when you have to click on it to feed it your aether to boost the gauge, then you'll soon emerge victorious (battered and bruised though).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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