Alexander 12N Tuning

[Werhusky]

I seen the title and post and was like: wutt???

A4 and A8 had similiar complaints at start and after 2 weeks it's easily DFable. It is not hard to heal imo just don't be shy to use a heal lb if things go wrong. In one run I even heal lb3ed even tho noone was dead yet but most were at like 20-30% and boss was casting timefreeze mechanic.

If anything so far my DF runs struggled on DPS checks (seems there are some).

Also as SCH I doubt to be behind in any regard healwise....

[Taika]

I can agree that it's a bit challenging for healers, but I think it's only an issue because most of the content outside of Savage doesn't really offer any challenge at all for healers (you barely need to actually heal in most fights), so the basic standard for the role has been way too low (which is also why the role has such a high focus on DPS). In my own experience, healing wise this fight is similar to Ozma in Weeping City. It actually requires some planning and consideration from the healers, but if there are two healers focusing on mostly healing (instead of just staying in cleric stance like in most fights in the game), it's not that difficult. I for one welcome this level of difficulty for normal mode, and after seeing Weeping City and then this new Alexander I feel like they're starting to take this game to a better direction.

[Yona87]

A12 is a joke lol

[LaylaTsarra]

I spent hours yesterday clearing A12. It wasn't fun and hopefully will get better when people learn the fight. I quickly watched a vid after the first or second try given the mechanics were far from obvious and the people there didn't explain the fight at all. That wasn't the case with A9, A10 and A11. Those fights went pretty well and people did explain mechanics to new people. I have 3 alts that will need clears and I'll try for clears with my alt Tiffa later today.

I'm not for nerfing it but it's definitely a fight that will potentially turn off a lot of casuals in my view.

[Harz]

I spent hours yesterday clearing A12. It wasn't fun and hopefully will get better when people learn the fight. I quickly watched a vid after the first or second try given the mechanics were far from obvious and the people there didn't explain the fight at all. That wasn't the case with A9, A10 and A11. Those fights went pretty well and people did explain mechanics to new people. I have 3 alts that will need clears and I'll try for clears with my alt Tiffa later today.

I'm not for nerfing it but it's definitely a fight that will potentially turn off a lot of casuals in my view.

What far from obvious mechanics?

Don't stack if you have aggravated assault? DPS into the portals? Drop puddles away from the group?

A12 is extremely light on mechanics, it just vomits damage. It's very similar to Nidhogg and Bahamut in that regard, as it should be.

[LaylaTsarra]

What far from obvious mechanics?

Don't stack if you have aggravated assault? DPS into the portals? Drop puddles away from the group?

A12 is extremely light on mechanics, it just vomits damage. It's very similar to Nidhogg and Bahamut in that regard, as it should be.

Oh well we aren't all wonders of the game like you who can figure out mechanics in a flip of the wrist. And no the mechanics weren't very obvious like having a single dps enter each of the portals or even knowing you had to enter them, or how to avoid the lasers or what the tethers meant. Oddly enough there were tons of people there having problems with the mechanics and that was exhibited by the number of wipes and abandons.

The fight is actually pretty epic once one knows what to do and with a group that knows how to as well.

[Harz]

Oh well we aren't all wonders of the game like you who can figure out mechanics in a flip of the wrist. And no the mechanics weren't very obvious like having a single dps enter each of the portals or even knowing you had to enter them, or how to avoid the lasers or what the tethers meant.

We died twice to aggravated assault before we figured it out, when those portals appeared the entire party ran into them the first time because it's pretty obvious when the adds he spawns run into them that you're supposed to follow. From that we figured out that it was one dps per portal. The tethers and the lasers were figured out as soon as we'd seen them once, just back off the boss and drop them around the side.

Why do you expect to be able to go into a fight blind and clear it in one shot? It took us a few pulls and that's perfectly fine. You need to communicate with your party, not just abandon and start from scratch as soon as you can't faceroll it.

[LaylaTsarra]

Why do you expect to be able to go into a fight blind and clear it in one shot? It took us a few pulls and that's perfectly fine. You need to communicate with your party, not just abandon and start from scratch as soon as you can't faceroll it.

I didn't go into the fight expecting an easy clear. I also didn't expect to spend all afternoon and running with 8 or more failed groups before getting a clear. My point was the fight is challenging, it does have mechanics people need to know to clear it, it does have a nice dps check and my sympathy for healers who really have to work at keeping everyone up including themselves. One of the fights actually hit enrage because the dps was too low and people died which didn't help. Wiping City (so named) is also easy once one knows the mechanics but it still takes a group knowing how to perform to clear it. This week there were tons of complaints about getting a clear there as well given all the new players who came back to the game not knowing what to do.

The groups didn't abandon without multiple attempts I might add. I'll have another go at it with my alt to get her cleared. I'll do a clear for another alt tomorrow. I'll have a good sense, and perhaps I was unlucky yesterday, of how the clears go after running it more. I'm not opposed to a challenge. I love A8 and I suspect I'll love this fight when I run it each week for a gear.

[Evangela]

A12 is actually easier than A11 IMO. I've been doing it with a bunch of first timers and most of them can one shot it.

[Cinno]

Honestly if this gets nerfed in any way I'm gping to be extremely dissapounted. I'm not a savage player. I'm what you referred to earlier in the thread as a "casual" and I would appreciate it if you didn't assume I want face roll content.

I love this game to death but honestly, it's boring. And that's because 90% of this game is lacking in challenge. I don't want to get a victory without even trying. I don't want the FINALE to be easy. I want it to be an epic battle that makes me feel like I'm actually fighting a powerful foe. I want the excitement that comes when you manage to pull it off right, and the sense of satisfaction you get when you manage to clear it.

Wanting it to be face roll so you can enjoy the story? It's a freaking game. If you don't want to "play" it, watch it on youtube. But God people, stop asking for things to be nerfed or made easier.. you're ruining this game. -.-