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  1. #1
    Player
    Katlyna's Avatar
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Thanks Ikki! That is a typo... surprised that typo has survived that long. It used to be we had 8 less total CP so you had to use SH if you wanted to use two 18 point actions.

    I love Innovation and Innovative touch. I'm using Innovative touch alot right now, just trying to find a comfy spot on my bar. I do NOT have room for Innovation unless I drop reclaim. And in three and four crafting I started using reclaim more because I've been getting some really terrible RNG synths which couldn't be saved by grace and innovation use.

    My primary use for Innovative touch is if I believe the synth has gone pretty rough and I'm going to still need one more boost to hit 100%. In which case the risk is worth the reward.
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    Ikki Wiki
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    Seraph
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    Warrior Lv 90
    My Skill Switch macro is different and longer, we probably don't use the same cross class on every class. I noticed these are the universal skills all my crafter wants to have regardless of if I'm doing manual or macro crafting.

    Byregot's Blessing
    Piece by Piece
    Waste Not II
    Careful Synthesis II
    Confort Zone
    Hasty Touch
    Steady Hand II

    That means my Culinarian has five free slots, Blacksmith and Goldsmith have three, the rest has four. So I made my macros to remove/add skills based on priority, since some can only fit some of these.
    For manual crafting I want to have Maker's Mark, Flawless Synthesis, Tricks of the Trade, Reclaim, Innovation in that order, other's may have different priorities for those 3 last skills.
    For macro crafting I want to have Muscle Memory, Ingenuity II, Manipulation, Innovation. All the crafters can fit them.

    My macros looks like this:

    Manual Crafting
    /aaction "Muscle Memory" off <wait.1>
    /aaction "Ingenuity II" off <wait.1>
    /aaction "Manipulation" off <wait.1>
    /aaction "Innovation" off <wait.1>
    /aaction "Maker's Mark" on <wait.1>
    /aaction "Flawless Synthesis" on <wait.1>
    /aaction "Tricks of the Trade" on <wait.1>
    /aaction "Reclaim" on <wait.1>
    /aaction "Innovation" on <wait.1>
    /echo Manual Crafting <se.1>

    Macro Crafting
    /aaction "Maker's Mark" off <wait.1>
    /aaction "Flawless Synthesis" off <wait.1>
    /aaction "Tricks of the Trade" off <wait.1>
    /aaction "Reclaim" off <wait.1>
    /aaction "Innovation" off <wait.1>
    /aaction "Muscle Memory" on <wait.1>
    /aaction "Ingenuity II" on <wait.1>
    /aaction "Manipulation" on <wait.1>
    /aaction "Innovation" on <wait.1>
    /echo Macro Crafting <se.2>


    With the manual crafting macro I don't have room for these.
    BSM: no Reclaim, no Innovation.
    CRP, ARM, LTW, WVR: no Innovation.
    ALC: can fit all.
    GSM: can fit all and has an spare slot so I put Rapid Synthesis on it.
    CUL: can fit all and has an spare slot on manual mode, and two on macro mode, I put Rapid Synthesis on it and leave the last free when in macro mode.

    Those that would like to have Innovation instead of reclaim or Tricks of the Trade just have to change the order of the skills on the macro.)
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    Honinbo Dosaku
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    You linked the wrong picture for this "MaMa PbP (4 Star Low CP) - Required stats 1023 Craftsman and 437 CP" I guess
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Thanks Nakade! I corrected a few details in the pictures. Note that the old MaMa PbP Low CP picture just had the wrong craftmanship ;-)
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    SHOOT I remember why I didn't consider this approach during 3* crafting. Because the extra SH wasn't needed and the extra PbP wasn't needed. Consequently during three star you could only squeeze out 8 extra CP... which was consequently lost to the extra SH you would have to spend it on... so you were better off skipping the Second CZ only SHing three times total and saving the extra CP for a guaranteed touch. But at this point you have to really drop the touch and you have two extra actions pulling the synth out... so you're absolutely right your proposed adjustment = awesomesauce
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Tested Saber's proposed rotation and its solid. I've made two macro variations of it. The one I prefer has a staggered hasty behind the Innovative Touch (so the macro can be used even if you are not a specialist). Saber do mind if I list your roation as the advised 4 star Macro? And verify you came up with it mostly on your own ;-) I know as Jin said he came up with something super similar.
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    Saber Kitteh
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlyna View Post
    Tested Saber's proposed rotation and its solid. I've made two macro variations of it. The one I prefer has a staggered hasty behind the Innovative Touch (so the macro can be used even if you are not a specialist). Saber do mind if I list your roation as the advised 4 star Macro? And verify you came up with it mostly on your own ;-) I know as Jin said he came up with something super similar.
    I don't mind! I came up with it playing around in doxxx's simulator after using the one you yourself had listed for a while for 3-star stuffs.
    The non-macro version for hands-on work is mostly inspiration / ideas from Ashe10 though

    I can't really take credit for either one but I did modify the groundwork provided for me
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    Savanni Shadowmantle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlyna View Post
    Tested Saber's proposed rotation and its solid. I've made two macro variations of it. The one I prefer has a staggered hasty behind the Innovative Touch (so the macro can be used even if you are not a specialist). Saber do mind if I list your roation as the advised 4 star Macro? And verify you came up with it mostly on your own ;-) I know as Jin said he came up with something super similar.
    I admit, I'm a little daft here. Can you post Saber's "proposed" rotation? Is it the second sequence posted in post #12 of this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savanni View Post
    I admit, I'm a little daft here. Can you post Saber's "proposed" rotation? Is it the second sequence posted in post #12 of this thread?
    It should be this one!
    (Minimum requirements 1022/924/427 with seafood stew, or 994/955/429 with baked onion soup - 8 less CP on either if you aren't specialist)

    Code:
    /ac "Muscle Memory" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Waste Not II" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    Code:
    /ac "Steady Hand" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Piece by Piece" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Master's Mend II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Piece by Piece" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Innovative Touch" <me>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Ingenuity II" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
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    Last edited by Sayboar; 10-07-2016 at 01:50 AM.

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    Firo Losstarot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayboar View Post
    It should be this one!
    (Minimum requirements 1022/924/427 with seafood stew, or 994/955/429 with baked onion soup - 8 less CP on either if you aren't specialist)
    Hey! decided to check this page to find a better lazy craft macro and this one you post, doesnt even make in the sim(progress bar not filled) i'm missing something?
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