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    Krystalan Deathgiver
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    Quote Originally Posted by slak View Post
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    You might as well be using the mama rotation if you're using that macro. On average, over 100 attempts you'll end up with 64 finished @29 steps and if you reclaim it costs a minimum of 26 steps where your breakpoints are; so, 36 reclaims at 26 steps + 64 successes at 29 steps = 936+ 1856=2792 steps for 64 finished, or 43.625 steps on average, so you're saving an average of maybe 2 or 3 steps. (my mama macro is 43 steps total, so actually more efficient)
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    Last edited by Deathgiver; 10-07-2016 at 07:10 AM.

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    Viggo Sinata
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgiver View Post
    You might as well be using the mama rotation if you're using that macro. On average, over 100 attempts you'll end up with 64 finished @29 steps and if you reclaim it costs a minimum of 26 steps where your breakpoints are; so, 36 reclaims at 26 steps + 64 successes at 29 steps = 936+ 1856=2792 steps for 64 finished, or 43.625 steps on average, so you're saving an average of maybe 2 or 3 steps. (my mama macro is 43 steps total, so actually more efficient)
    Could you post it? Or did I miss it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PantslessPrince View Post
    Could you post it? Or did I miss it?
    probably something like this:
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    I've updated the second post with Saber's adjusted macro. Its the best Mume approach I've seen and tested myself for four star crafting. The adjustments are spot on. I included two "dynamic" steps in the macro in order to make it work correctly for non specialist classes, and to consume "good/excellent" procs just before the final Byregot's Blessing (which could otherwise result in consumption of a poor" which we don't want to occur during a macro.
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    Mama Kat of Terra Salis on Ultros: http://terrasalis.guildwork.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlyna View Post
    I've updated the second post with Saber's adjusted macro. Its the best Mume approach I've seen and tested myself for four star crafting. The adjustments are spot on. I included two "dynamic" steps in the macro in order to make it work correctly for non specialist classes, and to consume "good/excellent" procs just before the final Byregot's Blessing (which could otherwise result in consumption of a poor" which we don't want to occur during a macro.
    Much appreciated! You guys make crafting fun
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    Might be good to add a macro for HQ'ing the aspected items?
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleanse View Post
    Might be good to add a macro for HQ'ing the aspected items?
    Good question. I glanced at this but didn't actually break it down yet as I haven't tried any. Personally I've done some pretty weird things in the past to do these items. I think the simplest way without set rotation is to MaMa Whistle them. Unless you get bad rng you'll push through. But I'll take a glance at this when I have some time.
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    Mama Kat of Terra Salis on Ultros: http://terrasalis.guildwork.com/
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    Hmm. I must have missed something. The only Aspected items I remember are the repair recipes that repair dungeon drops from places like Sunken Temple of Qarn. I used Flawless Synthesis to get through those recipes while leveling my crafters in those levels (30's) but are there higher ones that would actually need a MuMe or MaMa rotation for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
    Hmm. I must have missed something. The only Aspected items I remember are the repair recipes that repair dungeon drops from places like Sunken Temple of Qarn. I used Flawless Synthesis to get through those recipes while leveling my crafters in those levels (30's) but are there higher ones that would actually need a MuMe or MaMa rotation for?
    The Endless Expanse (bis ex) weapons are wind-aspected, Dead Hive (ravana ex) are fire-aspected

    The rotation I linked on the previous page should do them no problem (note they don't really need to be HQ as they're just glamour anyways)
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    Fleecy Blanket
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    Control vs Craftsmanship

    Hey, just getting into crafting after a year break, and came here reading up on rotations, breakpoints, etc. Something I seem to notice is everyone talk's about Rath's rotation with different craftsmanship breakpoints. And CP has always been awesome.

    So... if I'm trying to meld my gear right now, and debating on some items what to prioritize (i.e. more craftsmanship vs control on things like chest, MH, OH..), my old school mentality use to think control > craft, but no one talks about control at all. So is it craft > control? At least if I'm not sure what breakpoints are.

    Just trying ot figure out what I should meld in the non-maxable items without breaking my bank (just getting back into crafting, so I can't afford to pentameld all Vs).
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