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    Siniya's Avatar
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    Lyla Shadowfang
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60

    BRD best socket stat now ?

    What is the 3rd stat i should go for ???

    CRIT -> HIT -> and now ??? DET/SKILLSPEED ???

    thx for the answers
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Connor Whelan
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Don't take my word for it, but I believe Skill Speed is still weighted higher than Determination for Bards because of the way DET only gives small increases to damage and we lack an auto-attack (most of the time anyway). I think due to the way Skill Speed works there's a cut-off point for how much to add, but as far as I'm aware you won't hit this because Critical Hit Rate will take up as much of your available melding slots as possible.
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    Jukebox12's Avatar
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    Juke Fm
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    SS and Det Det increase Empyreal arrow barrage opener most of the time since it cannot be crited. also bloodletter and sidewinder can crit but it det does help. But you mostly want a Equal or more amount of Ss than Det cuz of DoT dmg but that just imo
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Once you got you Acc capped you want to go for Crit > SkS > Det

    I've tested both SkS and Det on my BRD. SkS gave me bigger numbers than Det.
    We do not have a turret like MCH nor relay on auto attacks. We have DoTs, aka more reason to go for SkS.
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    KfLeX's Avatar
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    Lola Milila
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    Ok I finished my relic last night, I maxed crit and det and had 5 left for acc. Did I do this wrong? I was told they were good because I play a lot of pvp. Should I change something?
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    Roegadyn Masterrace
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KfLeX View Post
    Ok I finished my relic last night, I maxed crit and det and had 5 left for acc. Did I do this wrong? I was told they were good because I play a lot of pvp. Should I change something?
    Those stats are fine.
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    KfLeX's Avatar
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    Lola Milila
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn View Post
    Those stats are fine.
    Thank you, good to know
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    Character
    Hyomin Park
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 92
    I don't do savage content or anything, but I do main Bard, and I go for as much crit as I can because I do enjoy having a large burst damage. I've had friends parse me a few times (I play on PS4) and I have pretty decent burst, and I can sustain my DPS for quite a bit if I'm focusing.

    I have had friends ask bards from their static, and one said that they go for Crit > Skill Speed > Determination.
    Personally, I am going to keep my Skill Speed/Determination around 600-650 (anywhere in that range is fine for me, personally), and then maximize as much crit as I can.

    Again, this is just a preference, and other bards I've spoken to have said the stats they go for really boil down to their preferences most of the time. I main bard, but I don't claim to be an expert on it. ^^

    For my anima, I maxed Crit and Det, and put the last five into Accuracy. While I don't raid, I keep my Accuracy at the savage raid caps.
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    Asny Rak'nys
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    I don't count accuracy in this because well that relies on the content you are doing and honestly don't want accuracy on the weapon.
    Crit >>>>> sks > det (the difference between them in 0.168 vs 0.166)

    What sks does for you is:
    increase your dot damage(2 always on dots, 1 ground dot(400 potency combined ticks)) every 60 s)
    reduce your cast times(at 704 or so you will be at 1.42s cast times)
    reduce your empyrial arrow recast time(at 704 at 14.2 recast)

    This doesn't sound like much but will add up in a fight for more empy casts.

    The other thing is synergy with something like Arrow from astro's. You can go down to 1.2s cast times and 12s recast on empy. That's basically 1 additonal empy in a minute.

    Skillspeed has tiers(see theorycrafters) so anything above a tier until you hit the next one won't really do much for you it seems.
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Siniya View Post
    What is the 3rd stat i should go for ???

    CRIT -> HIT -> and now ??? DET/SKILLSPEED ???

    thx for the answers
    For what do you need the accuracy? You need ~705 (maybe 10 more if you have to hit the front) in Savage and you should get more than enough from gear and food (if necessary).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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