DF Penalty from withdrawing from a party in progress should be removed

[myahele]

I'd like it if someone gets kicked 3 times in an hour that they'll get a 30m penalty.

As it stands those those who do the "right" thing by willingly leaving are the ones who get punished, yet those who manipulate the system (trolls, harassers, DF fishers, etc) are rewarded for such behaviour. They also changed the system so that the kicked person can't return to that party that kicked them ... for the most part.

If you have legitimate disconnection issues then being kicked and eventually having a 30m penalty will benefit other players in that they won't have a DC'ing player to potentially ruin a dungeon/trial run and that DC'ing player can then try to do something with their issue (if they can). I know when I am having issues with my internet I'll leave a dungeon asap to try to fix an issue.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I seen a few people say the troublemakers should be stuck doing that one duty if they bail and finishing it will remove the restriction.

[UnaLihzeh]

30 minutes to 72 hours is... a very extreme escalation. I like the idea of a heavier penalty (mostly because I'm tired of people quitting once as they see someone new in the dungeon, it's annoying as hell), but holy crap, a 14300% increase is ridiculous.

[LineageRazor]

30 minutes to 72 hours is... a very extreme escalation. I like the idea of a heavier penalty (mostly because I'm tired of people quitting once as they see someone new in the dungeon, it's annoying as hell), but holy crap, a 14300% increase is ridiculous.

I've always felt that the penalty should be equivalent to the remainder on the timer for the instance. Leave a dungeon with an hour and twenty minutes left on the clock? Your penalty is an hour and twenty minutes. Anyone signing up for duty finder should be willing to pledge whatever time it takes to complete the duty.

[Fynlar]

No, this is not true, you don't get penalized if you leave after joining a group in progress, go try it if you want. Since you don't know the circumstances in the new group SE doesn't force you to stay when you go in progress.

Already did, been penalized for it. Admittedly though, this was some time ago and it's possible they changed the rules since.

Well something has to be done about troll behaviour, and the reason I put the stuff in bold in is to try and stop the get out of jail free card by getting kicked or disconnecting until the end of the dungeon. It's harsh, but I'm not sure what else we can do to combat trolls. If someone legitimately lost connection and can prove it to the GMs, then it'd be reversed. I agree, I forgot to include that statement in my original post. But that's the thing, we need to find more improved ways to combat the trolls. If my ideas don't work (as you say they don't), what else can we do to combat it?

The thing is, there's really only so far you can go to "combat trolls" while still providing an enjoyable gaming experience. 72 hour bans for things that may not even be the player's fault cross way over that line.

This is why they don't exercise "just ban everybody and let Hydaelyn sort em out" as a solution for getting rid of RMT.

[FyrmurlFloerasksyn]

Would be a pretty bad move if they removed it. Anyone could simply leave the queue because hey feel like it and not get penalized.